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So you can't get a library card and umpteenth number of items without showing some form of ID, yet in registering to vote, a process, privilege that has the power, capability to profoundly effect the country in any number of ways, only requires responding to a single question, and the swearing under the penalty of perjury that they are citizens.

Right there is the very reason we are in the gravest danger in our history, as an illegitimate occupier of the office of the presidency bent on destroying our nation, wreaking devastation and havoc across the political, governmental spectrum, in a relentless single-minded objective to undermine the very underpinnings,existence of our great, quite possibly late country.

A divided 10-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit had ruled that the two sets of requirements “do not operate harmoniously” and “are seriously out of tune with each other in several ways.”

Incredible. I am aghast, can't believe what I'm reading, the Court's rationale for disallowing Arizona's voting law, the two sets of requirements “do not operate harmoniously” and “are seriously out of tune with each other in several ways.” .

Did you read that? Arizona's law does not operate harmoniously with the federal law and are seriously out of tune with each other in several ways. No matter that the federal law, is the worst, most reckless, ill-conceived law in history, toothless in discouraging illegal voting to the slightest degree and that the Arizona law, ton the diametrically polar opposite end to preserve, strengthen our Republic to maximum effect, the Court sided with the Federal law to supersede common sense, the Constitution itself, America itself.

No matter that the federal law does not offer the slightest validation that the prospective voter is in fact a citizen exercising the privilege as profound right so many have fought and died for, and yet is granted on the most frivolous of requirements, penalties of which make the law nothing but a catastrophic joke in the belief any non-citizen bent on voting illegally is going to give it a second thought. The fact is that at the end of the day it becomes readily apparent that the law is tantamount to nothing less than the empowering of voter fraud on a grand scale, not to mention, indirectly responsible for having put our very country in the gravest of danger

1 posted on 06/17/2013 11:12:19 AM PDT by lbryce
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This should have been a clear cut and easy case for all the elitist justices to finally get right, but they didn’t. I wonder what the NSA wiretaps undug on them?


2 posted on 06/17/2013 11:18:01 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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So,

open borders and,

anyone can vote ?

.


3 posted on 06/17/2013 11:18:10 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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I would love being on the Supreme Court. Imagine having a job that permits you to narrow, expand, change or even in the case of Roberts with Obamacare justify and rewrite the law so it fits your particular mood and temperment.

What a job!


4 posted on 06/17/2013 11:19:36 AM PDT by Cyman
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That NSA/IRS program is working like a charm, isn’t it? He can get them to do whatever he wants and 330 million people just sit back and watch the new American Idol or TrueBlood.


8 posted on 06/17/2013 11:25:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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I believe that decision pertains to fed elections only. The state should continue to do what it does for state elections.

And the supremes can shove their decision up their smelly Obamas.

And I hope and pray that they soon will have to do just that.


9 posted on 06/17/2013 11:25:45 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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First, they micturated on John Jay.

Then, they lied about ObamaCARE forcing
unequal taxation by fraud in violation of the Constitution.

Now, they blithely violate 18 U.S.C. § 2381.


10 posted on 06/17/2013 11:26:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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Under the Constitution, the federal government can regulate federal elections:

“The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators.”

So, since the federal government has a form on which a person swears under penalty of perjury, that he or she is a citizen, and that’s good enough for the feds, then that’s good enough.

One response to this law is to hold state and local elections on dates other than the dates of federal elections, like we do in Virginia, using odd years for the state elections, and require photo i.d. for the state elections.

Another response to the law is to investigate persons for whom there is reason to believe are not citizens but have signed the federal form swearing under penalty of perjury, etc. According to one source, here is the law regarding perjury here in Virginia:

The government must prove three elements beyond a reasonable doubt in order to secure a conviction for perjury in Virginia. First, the government must prove that the defendant made a false statement under oath or false written statement under penalty of perjury. Second, the prosecutor must prove that the defendant did so knowingly and willfully. Finally, the government must prove that the statement was “material” to any issue being tried or heard.

The falsity of any statement must be established by two or more witnesses or by one witness whose testimony is corroborated by independent evidence. In order for a statement to be “material,” the statement must be relevant to the fact that is being tried or heard or to any substantial circumstance which tends to prove or disprove such fact.

Perjury in Virginia is punishable by imprisonment from one to 10 years, confinement in jail for up to 12 months, and/or a fine of up to $2,500. Virginia Code §18.2-434. Virginia Code §8.01-4.3.

It’s me again. It seems that the second part, the “knowingly and willingly part,” is the stickiest point. So, when a voter presents himself at the polls based on the federal form only, it would be a good thing to inform the voter of his statement and then arrest his ass. I figure $2,500 per illegal alien could add up to a pretty penny, and we could then offer to use that money to fly the illegal home in lieu of ten years in jail.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 11:28:09 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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“...I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” - Jefferson to Dr. Benjamin Rush, September 23, 1800


13 posted on 06/17/2013 11:28:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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“Prospective voters must check a box for yes or no, and they must sign the form, swearing under the penalty of perjury that they are citizens. “

So Federal law merely requires “swearing” to citizenship rather than proving it.


14 posted on 06/17/2013 11:31:33 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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This does not give me a good feeling about the homo marriage rulings coming-up.. I don’t trust Roberts any farther than I can throw him, and he keeps giving me more evidence that he’s a traitor.


20 posted on 06/17/2013 11:44:31 AM PDT by MarkRegal05
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The Supreme Court should now be called the Sondergerichte.

After taking power in 1933, the Nazis quickly moved to remove internal opposition to the Nazi regime in Germany. The legal system became one of many tools for this aim and the Nazis gradually supplanted the normal justice system with political courts with wide ranging powers. The function of the special courts was to intimidate the German public, but as they expanded their scope and took over roles previously done by ordinary courts such as Amtsgerichte this function became diluted.


22 posted on 06/17/2013 11:48:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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In my county in New York State, you have to sign your name in the registration book when you vote. If people in the State of Arizona don’t have to prove they are citizens to vote, why should I have to provide my signature in order to vote?


23 posted on 06/17/2013 11:55:55 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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If the United States were not in an advanced stage of decadence, the American people would immediately impeach every one of the so-called "justices" who ruled with the majority in this decision.
25 posted on 06/17/2013 12:07:19 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("'1984' is the essence of 'liberalism'." rlmorel)
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digraceful and treasonous. the FIX is in on everything. of course those elites, including those in the black robes that voted in favor of this, don’t have to worry as the rest of us do. they have their wealth and will be shielded from the crumbs the rest of us be will fighting over.


27 posted on 06/17/2013 12:12:01 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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However! You will still be required to show an I.D. to buy smokes or Grab Some Buds! The morons infesting this country have their priorities all screwed up.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 12:26:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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Is there any other country in the world that allows such?


30 posted on 06/17/2013 12:39:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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The Just-Us-Eses on the USSC continue to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt they are about protecting the ruling elite and not the Constitution.

It is not their job to interpret the Constitution! It is written in English (albeit old English) and even comes with an Owner’s Manual known as the Federalist Papers.

It is obvious beyond any shadow of a doubt our nation’s Lie schools (like Harvard Lie School) have been cranking out Liars left and right to the point that a limited government is only a fond memory and the ruling elite have put on the bench at the USSC some of the countries mental midgets masquerading as judges.

Even though this was a 7-2, look at the history of the USSC and you will find there are mostly 5-4 decisions. How can the brightest people get it so wrong so much of the time? The Constitution is a small document.

Before public schools removed the knowledge, we knew the reason for this country was to have a government OF the people because King, Dictators had proven disastrous. Yet somehow in today’s world we have lying progressives (in both parties) creating more government every day with more and more laws and regulations to limit our freedom.


31 posted on 06/17/2013 12:39:49 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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The article is misleading.

The ruling was that a state cannot require PROOF of citizenship as part of processing voter registration for national elections, because CONGRESS passed a law dictating how voter registration is done, and the implementation of that law is a form that does not include a line requiring evidence for citizenship. You just sign under penalty of law that you are a citizen.

The state is free to, with probable cause, investigate if a registrant is a citizen, and if not, prosecute them for lying on the form.

Also, this doesn’t cover requiring ID to actually VOTE. It covers registration.

And lastly, the state can ask the voter board to include a requirement, and in some states they do — except right now the board has no members, because Obama has failed to appoint anybody.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 1:08:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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SCALIA wrote the opinion for the majority????

We ARE doomed!!


37 posted on 06/17/2013 1:25:43 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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Not so Fast....

This was ruled on narrow grounds and is NOT an overturning of Arizona law....

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner


39 posted on 06/17/2013 1:54:42 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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