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Snowden chats live with the Guardian: ‘Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped’
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Posted on 06/17/2013 9:34:28 AM PDT by Java4Jay

Edward Snowden, America's most wanted whistle-blower, participated in a live online chat with the Guardian newspaper on Monday.

"All I can say right now is the US Government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me," Snowden wrote. "Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1984; bigbrother; cultureofcorruption; frontpage; obamascandals; obamunism; orwelliannightmare; wiretapping
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

They should all be punished both parties have ruined America.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 10:55:02 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Izzy Dunne

I think you are starting to realize that Cheney is actually just another flavor of tyrant, just as the Bush family is full on tyrants. My advice for Cheney and his new heart is make amends for past decisions by traveling to Syria and assisting McCain’s buddies against the Assad tyrant!


22 posted on 06/17/2013 11:13:35 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Java4Jay

“I don’t understand why Cheney, for example, is so eager to call this guy a traitor.”

Exposing what we can do makes our enemies aware of what we can do.


23 posted on 06/17/2013 11:15:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Java4Jay

24 posted on 06/17/2013 11:26:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Java4Jay

25 posted on 06/17/2013 11:34:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Java4Jay
Anybody with good common sense that’s been getting news off FR should suspect this crap has been going on for years.

The only difference between HIM and US is that he has THE WHOLE WORLD'S ATTENTION.

26 posted on 06/17/2013 11:37:19 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Java4Jay

BS.

He never had access to dossier type information.

That just is not how information is gathered or stored.

Information resides on disparate dbases , in various forms and on various OS’.


27 posted on 06/17/2013 11:57:41 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: showme_the_Glory

His China excuse still doesn’t fly for me. He still went to America’s enemy to leak this information.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 12:04:27 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee; Java4Jay

What information did he leak? The fact that the NSA is spying on everyone? According to several people, including Java4Jay, anyone with common sense already knew that. Also, he didn’t need to go to China to pass information to the Chinese government. (That is, if he had any information to pass to anyone — other than the the fact that the information exists that is.)

At most, Snowden is guilty of providing meta data about meta data (i.e. he’s informed us that meta data is being collected by the NSA).


29 posted on 06/17/2013 12:39:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: showme_the_Glory
Dead man talking

That's courageous "dead-man talking."

I hope he's a chatterbox. This 666.guv has NO respect for We The People nor the 4th Amendment, NOR our 1A -- and barely respects out 2A.

30 posted on 06/17/2013 12:43:11 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: Black Agnes
You cannot scan cell phones with a police scanner. You can only scan cordless phones.

Cell phones are encrypted with low level encryption...so the story is false.

http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/35376/are-phone-calls-on-a-gsm-network-encrypted

31 posted on 06/17/2013 1:01:06 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Jeff Head
Snowden comes across as a naive, and foolish young man.

However, he has done us all a service by blowing the lid on this for whatever reasons. PRISM and the programs associated with it are establishing an hugely obtrusive Federal surveillance of all American citizens. What was billed to be directed only at ISlamic terrorists...we could "trust them," on that, has turned into a massive program that by default gathers info ON ALL US.

Well stated.

A .guv program implemented under the auspices of "national security" has wound up a Trojan Horse, betraying a citizenry which assumed our governance would continue acting as our guardians -- not Peeping Toms.

Instead, Mosque activity is near-verboten, monitoring Muslim communications is sloppy (see Boston Marathon).

Moreover and inexplicably, official immigration policy has been to import AND subsidize Muslim immigration. A disturbing Big Picture of systematic constitutional abuse is emerging as Snowden is its catalyst. There is NO justification in the name of "security" to completely trash the 4th Amendment.

32 posted on 06/17/2013 1:06:51 PM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I remember reading things by Rumsfeld and Cheney during the formulation of the Patriot Act which sounded like what Obama is doing to take over the government. Cheney said an attack on DC (perhaps in a footnote)would be the time for the president to dismiss the Constitution, Congress, etc. and become like a dictator. Nothing new there, except Obama may beat them to it with far worse results. I expect there are other things Cheney/Rumsfeld do not want exposed to the public, as does Bolton, Boehner, Mukasey, Mueller, etc. I am not making this up, but please don’t ask for verification. I may have it somewhere in a stack of boxes but don’t feel like looking. Maybe some one else does.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 1:53:49 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: Izzy Dunne

Cheney is just playing a role. He has never ever addressed any of Snowdens accusations.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 2:57:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Sam Gamgee
He still went to America’s enemy to leak this information.

He does not want a drone up his but. And he is laying the ground work for many more Snowdens.

35 posted on 06/17/2013 2:59:44 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Black Agnes

Yes, really.

Cell phones used to use analog transmissions, and it used to be easy to intercept a call with a 800-900Mhz scanner.


36 posted on 06/17/2013 3:31:09 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: willyd

You used to be able to scan analog cell phone calls, which is what Newt’s phone was back then. Remember, that was back in 1997.

Today, you can intercept GSM and CDMA cell phone calls, but the equipment is expensive, or you have to know what you’re doing and do some hacking yourself.

This isn’t rocket science.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 3:38:17 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: iopscusa

I agree with you but I would add that the Bushs should accompany him so that we can get first hand confirmation that ‘a new world order’ is here and alive at home and abroad.


38 posted on 06/17/2013 4:13:41 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Jeff Head
"Snowden comes across as a naive, and foolish young man."

How would you rate his shrewdness and conniving abilities in comparison to another man, say, born between 1940 and 1950?

;-)


39 posted on 06/17/2013 4:15:56 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: justa-hairyape
"He still went to America’s enemy to leak this information."

He does not want a drone up his but. And he is laying the ground work for many more Snowdens.

Snowden needs time for this to develop. HK does have some autonomy, and a "real" legal system and freedoms not found elsewhere in China. My understanding is that Snowden probably could be extradited eventually, but he can buy a lot of time with a legal defense, particularly IF he has money for a top notch lawyer. Plus he can threaten to go to the Chinese gov't with much more damaging goodies (which I believe The Guardian has said he has and they have seen). In effect, he may have a "dead man switch" attached to a quite large bomb. This is a more credible threat if he is in a unique "in-between" but still highly developed place like HK. This as opposed to someone like that poor fool who produced "Innocence of Muslims" and is presently languishing in a jail cell, effectively silenced.*

*At least for now - I've read that he says he still intends to finish it when he gets out, whenever that is...

As for more Snowdens coming out, indeed, I just heard the interview with William Binney, and Binney needs to get on more popular shows than Beck, NOW. His former position & background cannot be belittled the way Snowden's has.

40 posted on 06/17/2013 4:26:55 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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