I don’t “trust Hayden”; as I make clear in my post #70, I don’t know him from Adam (although if Dick Cheney vouches for him he can’t be all bad). Maybe Hayden is a liar, but if so he inadvertently told the truth about the probable cause requirement not applying to searches generally. My own understanding of the Fourth Amendment predates this article and my reading Hayden’s (uneloquent) explanation byalmost 20 years.
That whole “probable cause” thing is a red herring that is playing into Obama’s hands. The more conservatives harp about the lack of compliance with an inapplicable standard, the easier it will be for Obama to skate on the real issue, which is whether the metadata searches were “reasonable” pursuant to the Fourth Amendment.
There is no reason... no rationalization... no Constitutional provisions for our government to record and archive all of our phone calls, emails and electronic communications and then search those records at any time they deem necessary and for any reason that any bureaucrat with access to them wishes... whether for nefarious reasons or not. Our government says that this is fine and that they have been doing it for years and several elected Senators of the communist party have agreed. The problem is that these records are being used to suppress rights... keep elections corrupt and in the progressive corner and to destroy lives as harry reid and others wish to do.This is just Germany 1938.
LLS
Correct. The real issue was edited out of the video, beginning at 37 seconds. And abb cut and pasted the transcript of the interview into #4 so we can see what was edited out.
The interviewer says "the legal standard is probable cause" then the edit begins.
It is somewhat wordy but the interviewer asks the general did he craft the detour around the FISA court. The general says he didn't craft the authorization, he was responding to a lawful order, and the AG averred to the lawfulness of the order.
The edit then ends with the general saying "just to be very clear"
Now, there are two things not known.
1. Who edited the video? That would have been either Keith Olberman/MSNBC or the UTube poster mildlybrilliant
2. Who gave the order that the general followed and the AG averred to? That would have been Bush or Cheney.