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Why Do Republicans Support Something That Will Eliminate Their Party?
The Rush Limbaugh Program ^ | 14 June 2013 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/16/2013 2:26:41 PM PDT by COBOL2Java

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RUSH: Kansas City. Betty, hi. Welcome to the EIB Network. Great to have you here. Hello.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. I was reading the website, and I think that someone said this yesterday, but I was driving down the road, and you were saying we're just missing something on the amnesty bill, why in the world would Republicans support something that will cause their party to lose in the future. And I was just thinking, well, they'll just become the Democrats -- now, I'm probably being reactionary, but I'm thinking, they'll probably just become the Democrats that they are already are. I am so disappointed in my party. I expect to disagree with the Democrat Party. But I disagree with my party. I'm a Republican, or at least I thought I was.

RUSH: Hold it just a second. I'm serious. I don't understand. There's gotta be something I'm missing. The question is real: Why do all of these Republicans -- you know the names -- why are they supporting something that's gonna eliminate their party? Why are they supporting something that's going to render them an ineffective minority for as far as the eye can see? If they want to be Democrats, quit the Republican Party and join the Democrat Party. Why do they want -- it's almost as though -- well, I can't answer it. It doesn't make any sense to me.

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RUSH: So why are the Republicans so eager to render themselves a permanent minority status by agreeing to amnesty, immigration reform, which is gonna result in millions more instant new Democrats, against which the Republicans will be hopelessly uncompetitive. Why would they do it? You want to take a stab? Snerdley says they see that they're gonna be permanently defeated anyway by a rising Hispanic population if they don't do this. It's what they fear. Maybe.

There's a theory, there's an answer to the question that you know and I know, and it revolves around their hatred -- too strong a word -- the Republican Party is embarrassed of its base. How many times have I sat here and reminded you of this? The Republican Party, I've told you stories. I'll repeat one. Hamptons, 1992, 1993. My first ever trip to the Hamptons, a dinner party at the home of a famous American, Republican. After dinner, out on the deck, a guy comes up to me -- a name you'd know. Not gonna tell you who -- punches me with his finger in the chest, "What are you gonna do about the Christians?"

Remember, now, this my first trip there. I'm with these people for the first time in my life, and I'm really sizing it all up and wondering why I'm really there. I mean, these are very wealthy, powerful Republicans. This guy's pounding me in the chest, "What are you gonna do about the Christians?" I said, "What are you talking about?" "Abortion! They're killing us! Pro-lifers are killing us, and they listen to you." Some of the same people have done the same thing to me on gun control. "You have got to tell these people to back off on guns. You've got to tell these pro-lifers to just quiet down."

I've heard them say they get embarrassed going to Republican conventions with the pro-life crowd that's also there. My first experience of that was in Houston in 1992. The pro-life contingent there was huge, and I remember the way I was treated by that group, making other Republicans nervous. The bottom line is that the Republican Party is embarrassed by its own base. The Republican Party is ashamed of its base. They accept the Democrat caricature of the Republican base. Southern, hayseed hicks, pro-lifers, pickup-truck-driving, gun-rack-in-the-back-window people, chewing tobacco and going to church and talking about God all the time.

But they really see 'em as a bunch of zealots when it comes to abortion. And all these guys I'm talking about have wives who nag 'em about it, don't want any part of the pro-life crowd, embarrassed to be with them at the conventions. So the theory goes that this is a way to get rid of the Republican base. Supporting amnesty and having the Democrats win big-time elections after this is a way for the party to finally get rid of its base. Now, you say, "Well, replace it with what?"

Don't ask me, but I'm guessing, I assume that some Republicans think that there's a new group of people that would become their base. If they just got rid of these pro-lifers, if they just got rid of this religious crowd, if they just got rid of the Christians, if they just got rid of these gun nuts, the bitter clingers, as Obama calls 'em. If the Republicans just got rid of those people, a lot more people would like Republicans, and maybe some of the people voting Democrat would then vote Republican, 'cause some of the people voting Democrat would love to vote Republican since they also don't like the hicks and they also don't like the hayseeds and the religious people.

There you have a possible theory. But even when you drill that down, when you drill deep down into that one, you still ask how in the world -- the Republican base is 24 million votes. The Republicans aren't gonna win anything without them. That was demonstrated in 2008. It was demonstrated in 2012. It was demonstrated in 1992, and it was demonstrated in 1996. You don't win without them. So if they drive their current base away, what is the current base gonna do? Just sit there and not participate anymore?

How is voting for amnesty going to cause the base to leave the party? Isn't it gonna maybe inspire the base to want to finally take it over? There will be some third-party advocates, but if that happens the Republicans are dead, double dead politically, if a third party forms. But it is believable and understandable that the Republican establishment and their consultants and all that really don't like a lot of the base. They don't like conservatives, be they Christians, be they pro-lifers, be they so-called gun nuts. They didn't like Reagan, as you know.

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RUSH: I suspect, ladies and gentlemen, the answer to my question, aside from the brilliant expose I just provided, the answer to my question is all about money. And so the answer to why would these people sit by and allow this party to become a permanent minority status and be insignificant and ineffective, to answer that question, find out how in that arrangement a bunch of people get rich, and you will get the answer to your question. And if you want, we'll explore that next week. I'll be more than happy to take a tour down that theory, see where it takes us.

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To: COBOL2Java

Limbaugh finally comes out against amnesty. This is big news. Rubio’s goose is cooked.


21 posted on 06/16/2013 2:57:59 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: COBOL2Java

we all be part of the People’s Democrat Party in the future, just different factions of it.

Welcome to the One Party State


22 posted on 06/16/2013 3:00:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

The GOPe bigwigs didn’t like Reagan either


23 posted on 06/16/2013 3:01:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: COBOL2Java

Bookmarking for 4 years down the road when some Rush basher claims that Rush never criticized the GOP for their support of amnesty.


24 posted on 06/16/2013 3:04:13 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: GeronL

The question is why so many of our political elites ready to send the whole country and everybody else to hell? They know the result of this amnesty..30 million more poorly educated immigrants. They know it will cost a fortune and reduce wages of the struggling working middle class. They know our schools will be over run.
Is it time yet?


25 posted on 06/16/2013 3:04:45 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Zhang Fei

Government is now for Government. The public is is not their concern. Their concern is what Government can do only for them! Dole out a few cookies and keep the populas happy.
The average citizen need not have dreams and aspirations!
No one needs to excell, no one deserves to be wealthy, No one needs more than what Government can dole out to it’s citizens.
See ya in the food line soon!


26 posted on 06/16/2013 3:05:04 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: COBOL2Java

Because the eGOP and the DNC are one in the same. They call each other “friend” and negotiate our rights away one by one. The eGOP takes on then the DNC takes one. It’s all the same power grab.


27 posted on 06/16/2013 3:05:32 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Oldexpat

Of course they know. They also know that impoverished countries have very long-lived rulers who have unlimited power.


28 posted on 06/16/2013 3:05:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Oldexpat

The end game is near. They need to have control of everything, they need to impoverish the country, they need to inflate the currency by a lot and they will be in power forever. The ruling elite will be entrenched.

Isn’t this what seems to happen in third world countries?

What else could they do when this country is so far in debt?


29 posted on 06/16/2013 3:09:04 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: COBOL2Java

Republicans supporting legislation that not only is bad for America but is bad for republicans too?

That is not something new.

They have been doing this as long as I can remember and probably long before that.

The also seem to have difficulty seeing past next week when evaluating the consequences of legislation. Or maybe they don’t even try.

Much of America’s troubles (and the fortunes of the republican party) can be traced to the horrible Immigration Act of 1965, written by democrat congressman Emanuel Celler, sponsored in the senate by democrat Philip Hart, and vigorously supported by democrats, notably Ted Kennedy.

If you read the history and content of the bill you will see that it was essentially just another part of the LBJ era ‘feel good’ civil rights legislation that democrats pursued with the intent of gaining favor with minorities and turning them into a reliable democrat voting bloc.

Even though it was a democrat bill that heavily favored the fortunes of democrats, republicans supported it at a higher level than did democrats with 85% of Republicans voting for passage of the bill versus 74% of Democrats.

In the house 117 Republicans voted yes, 10 no, and 11 abstained.In total,

In the senate Republicans supported the bill with 24 voting yes, 3 voted no, and 1 abstained.


30 posted on 06/16/2013 3:09:42 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Free Stuff, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: COBOL2Java

A third party has already formed... it just isn’t designated YET..

Republicans have always more or less loyal.. so they wait for a change..
Well it isn’t going to change.. republican elite ARE democrat-lite.. always were..
and have a lock on party mechanics..

Easy to take a democrat out of the party..
BUT its damn hard to remove the democrat from the democrat..
Democrats are just dumb or stupid or traitors or parasites.. or a mix..

Democrats can change parties like changing their hair color..
ANY republican may not really BE A REPUBLICAN..
Many democrats are in fact Communists.. or Socialists..
WHich is effect is the same thing.. the terms are merely “diversions”..

You can quote me; “Any republican not NOW ready to leave the party IS A DEMOCRAT”..
NOW... not after the next election .... NOW..


31 posted on 06/16/2013 3:09:57 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: GeronL

Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms. - Aristotle

so true


32 posted on 06/16/2013 3:12:23 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: COBOL2Java

The GOP has always been that way — that’s why it is known as the Stupid Party.

But lately I have come to the conclusion that we have but one party — the Demopublicans.


33 posted on 06/16/2013 3:13:07 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: OneWingedShark

There can be no doubt.


34 posted on 06/16/2013 3:13:49 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: COBOL2Java

They’ve lost me. I will only vote for a Christian conservative from now on, regardless of party affiliation. If there are none in the race I’ll stay home and bitterly cling to stuff.


35 posted on 06/16/2013 3:16:38 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: hosepipe

Where is this new party? I’m about ready to leave.


36 posted on 06/16/2013 3:21:54 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: COBOL2Java; central_va; nathanbedford

First of all, understand that “democracy” is an evil from the pits of Hell, and that our Founders were terribly afraid that we would arrive at the place where we are now. OK, they were right, and we have arrived.

THEREFORE: Whoever controls the mob controls the State. The members of the House and the Senate are, for the most part, enemies of the People and of the Constitution. Of the People, because the People love God and love Liberty, and the Members for the most part hate both. Of the Constitution, because it limits their power in a way that democracy would not do. They are busy importing a new People who do not love Liberty, but until their New Majority is in place, they have to conceal what they are doing with a charade of “Republicans” and “Democrats”. For the most part, they are the same, and rule in coalition.

The ruling coalition is united around several things that the people are against. They are skilled at setting up phony issues (or issues that don’t concern the Federal government) to break up the formation of any possible other coalition.

Republicans and Democrats agree that the purpose of the State is redistribution. How much, and to whom, and under what circumstances, there are disagreements. But no elected officials of either Party believe that it is wrong to take from you and give to another of their own choosing, for reasons that make sense to them.

Republicans and Democrats agree that you have “rights” - lots of them. They also agree that any question ABOUT your “rights”, or whether or not something IS a “right”, should not be decided by a political process because that is “divisive”. So, they both agree that the voice of “the People” as contemplated in Articles IX and X can only be voiced by nine unelected life tenure judges, and that five of them, at any time or for any reason, can give new “rights” and take away old ones, particularly if those old ones arise out of majority voting.

Republicans and Democrats all believe in “diversity”. They, ignoring completely the results of all social science research on this subject, and contrary to millennia of human experience and wisdom, believe that the more “diverse” our country, its institutions, and any private entities within her become, the more cohesive and productive we will become.

Republicans and Democrats almost all believe in “free trade” and “immigration”. These things are good for various constituencies of both parties while they wreck the economy and the nation.

Many of the People, perhaps a majority, do not believe in any of these things. But in our existing system, captive as it is to the MSM-mandated “process” for choosing two candidates for POTUS neither of whom will change a thing, leaves the People with no voice.

The Tea Party election of 2010 was not, contrary to all appearances, a Republican victory. The Republicans in Congress were more terrified by it than the Democrats were. The Republicans in Congress know in their bones that Tea Party thinking a) can capture the mob, and b) can upend or destroy all of the ruling coalition principles above.

So many here still are beguiled by the Republican illusion. They keep posting that, if the Republicans retake the Senate, Obama could be impeached.

Do you think that the Republicans in Congress would do anything to cause Obama to be removed? Are you out of your mind?

Right now, the biggest enemy of a political (peaceful) solution to the American crisis is the Republican Party, and the sooner it is destroyed the sooner a pro-American political movement can move to take power.


37 posted on 06/16/2013 3:27:47 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: hosepipe

Agree.


38 posted on 06/16/2013 3:35:30 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Reagan brought these people TO the republican party.

Don't forget that in the 60s and 70s democrats were the ones with the huge split of liberals versus "backy-chewing, Christian, pro-life rubes".

Reagan never made fun of religious people, he WELCOMED them.

He always said that it doesn't mean I've signed on to their beliefs, they've signed on to mine.

That's the key. Religious people should always feel "welcome" in the republican party.

And the blatant hostility of liberals toward God by the dems should be blasted 24/7.

If they want to be the all atheist, all-gay, all-transgendered, pro-molestation party, let them.

39 posted on 06/16/2013 3:37:19 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: COBOL2Java

They might as well, they are dead anyway.

The only problem is the RINOS,, who refuse to report to the morgue for burial preps.


40 posted on 06/16/2013 3:38:24 PM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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