Posted on 06/16/2013 12:38:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
As President Barack Obama pushes an ambitious agenda to liberalize global trading, political trade wars already are forming, and they’re with fellow Democrats rather than with Republicans, his usual antagonists.
Obama is promoting free-trade proposals with Europe and Asia that could affect up to two-thirds of all global trade. …
Both deals generally have the support of U.S. businesses. But labor unions and human rights and environmental groups—core Democratic constituencies—have so far viewed them cynically.
These organizations, and Democrats in general, say that free-trade deals can cost American jobs and lead to environmental and workplace abuses that would not be tolerated in the U.S. …
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I wonder what Major Winters opinion would have been on outsourcing manufacturing to communists. Care to speculate?..
Reagan’s Fault™.
Don’t know. But he struck me as the sort of guy who would own a Walther.
Within the 50 states, no tariffs or regulations. Outside the US very tight control of trade and tariffs.
You don't know much.
The difference between you and I is, when I don’t know something I admit it. What’s your excuse?
Understood. Like, this is the guy that said Gitmo would be closed in 2009.
The irony is, at this point, he needs some sort of a legislative “success” to alleviate the heat he’s feeling . . . and one of the only things to do is precisely the thing that is antithetical to his core beliefs.
iirc that may be two different activities. TARP was 2008/Bernanke (profit making) and the GM bailout was 2009 (loss making).
Not sure if he's ever had any serious 'core beliefs' of his own, his base has maybe but that's never been a significant issue in the past...
I’m with you and of course there’s a difference between the parties. If our single goal were lower tariffs, then throughout most of America’s history we’d have been Democrats.
That said, the Democrats have taken for themselves the worst traits of all the American political parties in the history of the country. I vote Republican because of that and will continue to do so. I voted for McCain and for Romney and in my home state for Kirk, all of whom are considered RINOs. The political process is both imperfect and imprecise.
For example, I’m excoriated by many Illinois FReepers for supporting Kirk in the general election, despite the fact that the ACU shows him to be 10 times better than our Democrat Senator, the despicable and ruinous Dick Durbin. Go figure?
Politics as in Geo-politics. Simple things escape the pure trading libertarians such as why does Japan hold so much USG debt? They do us this favor as a kind of payment for us backing them up against China. Japan is not just buying USG securities for the heck of it. It has a reason///That they are an ally
Free Trade libertarians are opportunist that are feeding of off the blood sweat and tears of generations of Americans that preceded them. Selling out your countrymen and their infrastructure is REALLY profitable. All the while claiming it is good for America - priceless.
Free trade and free trade theory is a stupid conceit that only exists in a few Anglo-origin nations. No one else in the world believes in it as dogma. Notice that idiocies like libertarianism flourish in the hot house environment of America and hardly exists anywhere else. Spoiled people are attracted to spoiled selfish theories of human nature and economics
We need strong leadership. The sort that will make our trains run on time.
A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
― Milton Friedman
Their bureaucratic and heavy regulated idea of “liberalized trade” is insane. Free trade would take one page, fair trade would take a few but we end up with ten thousand page “trade treaties” that micromanage everything and gets called “liberalized”
You might want to come over to this thread and tell us freedom hating protectionists where we are going wrong. Bring your little FRiend Todd with you.
We can continue our discussion here, instead. Unless you feel intimidated, or something . . . in which case I’d suggest you put your big-boy pants on.
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