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Obama trade dilemma: Scant support from Democrats
Associated Press ^ | Jun 15, 2013 12:16 PM EDT | Tom Raum

Posted on 06/16/2013 12:38:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai

As President Barack Obama pushes an ambitious agenda to liberalize global trading, political trade wars already are forming, and they’re with fellow Democrats rather than with Republicans, his usual antagonists.

Obama is promoting free-trade proposals with Europe and Asia that could affect up to two-thirds of all global trade. …

Both deals generally have the support of U.S. businesses. But labor unions and human rights and environmental groups—core Democratic constituencies—have so far viewed them cynically.

These organizations, and Democrats in general, say that free-trade deals can cost American jobs and lead to environmental and workplace abuses that would not be tolerated in the U.S. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; obama; tradeagreement; tradewar
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1 posted on 06/16/2013 12:38:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Remember NAFTA? A continuing disaster for middle-class Americans.


2 posted on 06/16/2013 3:30:02 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: ransacked; DannyTN; dennisw; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; 1010RD; SAJ
Republicans historically have supported free-trade agreements far more than have Democrats...

--and Obama ran in '08 on an anti-trade anti-business platform.  My guess is that this is just another scam.  Plenty of talk to distract us away from Bangazi, IRS, metadata, Pigford, etc. etc. and when it never goes anywhere he'll blame it on someone else.  From the article:

Both deals generally have the support of U.S. businesses. But labor unions and human rights and environmental groups - core Democratic constituencies - have so far viewed them cynically.

Let's face it, the looney left loves their import taxes and will never let go.  They may lie about it but tax-cuts are just not on.

3 posted on 06/16/2013 4:10:39 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama; ransacked; DannyTN; dennisw; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; SAJ
Two thoughts:

1. Free trade in all its forms is contrary to Democrat goals and aspirations. A controlled populace is pure gold to them.

2. The GOP shouldn't get a pass. Because of their love of tariffs we have the 16th Amendment. When they had control why didn't they kill the sugar tariff, the one that benefits 3-5 families?

Both parties are political and seek political solutions that satisfy their elite constituencies. Conservatives need to lever the natural conflicts between the elites to attain our goals. That's the only historically proven path to victory.

4 posted on 06/16/2013 4:57:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Olog-hai

Let’s face it. This isn’t free trade. Ever try shipping products to Canada? For some reason, shipping is quadruple what it would cost to ship across the US. Then the customer gets additional fees. These free trade agreements only benefit the globalists and hurt real Americans.


5 posted on 06/16/2013 5:02:29 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 1010RD
Lewinsky remembers being with Clinton on President's Day 1996, when he spoke to a Florida sugar grower named something like Fanuli. Phone logs show Clinton spoke to sugarbaron Alfonso Fanjul that day.

Time Magazine, September 21, 1998.


6 posted on 06/16/2013 5:44:50 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.
Obama is promoting free-trade proposals with Europe and Asia that could affect up to two-thirds of all global trade. ... Both deals generally have the support of U.S. businesses. But labor unions and human rights and environmental groups -- core Democratic constituencies -- have so far viewed them cynically.

7 posted on 06/16/2013 5:48:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

So Obama has Statist Free Trader GOP supporting him, and not Statist Free Trader Dems?

The problem here is that we have a lot of Anti-American Liberal GOP siding with Obama on this

Absolutely stupid to sign a Free Trade deal with the poster child of Failed Free Trade....the EU.


8 posted on 06/16/2013 6:04:48 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: Olog-hai

Marx was a Free Trader, Obama is a Marxist. Therefore Obama is a Free Trader.


9 posted on 06/16/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 1010RD
Because of their love of tariffs we have the 16th Amendment.

The 16th amendment compensated for the loss of income due to the lifting of import tariffs.

10 posted on 06/16/2013 6:13:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: expat_panama

—and Obama ran in ‘08 on an anti-trade anti-business platform. My guess is that this is just another scam. Plenty of talk to distract us away from Bangazi, IRS, metadata, Pigford, etc. etc. and when it never goes anywhere he’ll blame it on someone else. From the article:


Most of the party elite Democrats are Free Traders...and this “opposition” may be a way to get more spending for their states and districts

Obama, Clintons, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore (the point man for passing NAFTA), Barbara Boxer, George Soros, the UN, John Kerry, and a whole bunch of liberal Dems are big supporters of Free Trade.

Liberal Dems love Free Trade because you always get more government spending to cover up the failures of Free Trade


11 posted on 06/16/2013 6:13:57 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: SeminoleCounty
How can we find a way for the state to protect us from all these statists?
/protectionist
12 posted on 06/16/2013 6:14:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

So would you be in favor of Smith and Wesson, Colt and Ruger moving all of the manufacturing to China?


13 posted on 06/16/2013 6:15:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I’d rather move you to China. Where you could learn about Marx, maybe.


14 posted on 06/16/2013 6:16:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

So would you be in favor of Smith and Wesson, Colt and Ruger moving all of the manufacturing to China?

Answer the question you coward.

15 posted on 06/16/2013 6:18:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Every couple of weeks, it seems, you think you're being clever . . . always with some question that leads nowhere, and never does.

I'm not in favor of any manufacturer moving to China. At the same time, I don't expect the state to forbid a manufacturer from doing so. That's right up your alley, Marxist.

16 posted on 06/16/2013 6:26:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

So all of our arms manufacturing moving off shore wouldn’t make you stop and give pause on your radical position? At all? You wouldn’t fight against that from happening? You really are an un-American POS. Worse than I thought. You’d sacrifice the life of my children on your alter of “Free Trade”.


17 posted on 06/16/2013 6:31:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

See what I mean? I answer the question, and off you go down your personal slippery slope. I really don’t know what’s more amusing to watch—something like this, or you getting all hot and bothered when I don’t play along.


18 posted on 06/16/2013 6:34:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Just adding an antidote to the Marxist vibe on this thread:

Government has three primary functions. It should provide for military defense of the nation. It should enforce contracts between individuals. It should protect citizens from crimes against themselves or their property. When government-- in pursuit of good intentions tries to rearrange the economy, legislate morality, or help special interests, the cost come in inefficiency, lack of motivation, and loss of freedom. Government should be a referee, not an active player.
― Milton Friedman

19 posted on 06/16/2013 6:36:39 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Marx was Free Trader, 1rdudeboy is a Free Trader and Obama is a Free Trader. So what other Obama Regime policies do you agree with?


20 posted on 06/16/2013 6:37:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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