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Palin: 'Special Interest' Amnesty Bill Rewards 'Rule Breakers'
Big Government ^ | June 15, 2013 | Tony Lee

Posted on 06/15/2013 1:58:51 PM PDT by Bratch

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To: JaguarXKE

No, he’s one of the original PDS’ers who infested Palin threads from 2009-2011.


101 posted on 06/16/2013 5:05:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

That’s actually not true. Palin like the GOPe mainstream, including McCain, responded to tea party pressure in 2010 by saying “secure the border first, and then we can talk about that afterwards. The American people are compassionate...”

In 2010 Palin told McCain on Fox that there was no daylight between their positions on illegal immigration. Supporting Brewer on the borders is consistent with that, but it doesn’t necessarily indicate an opposition to amnesty.

Heck, Rubio is the biggest pusher of his Gang of Eight bill, and he claims he’s against amnesty.

So the very good news is that Palin came out against both the weak borders and amnesty aspects of Rubio’s bill yesterday.

We need her to make that her number one issue through 2013—or the country and conservatism are lost. We also need her to clarify that she’s against the bill outright and not just dancing around wanting to tweak it a bit before supporting it.

Yesterday was a big, big move toward that and I’m praying for the rest.


102 posted on 06/16/2013 5:23:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Timber Rattler

PS IMO Palin could ride to the 2016 presidency on success in stopping the bill, because that would mean she has roused righteous public opinion on the matter and she has shown again that she is not only the most principled, but the most efficacious political leader we have.


103 posted on 06/16/2013 5:26:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Bratch

Nice refreshing comment from a true American..


104 posted on 06/16/2013 5:30:32 AM PDT by PLD (Muzzy)
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To: 9YearLurker; Timber Rattler

“In 2010 Palin told McCain on Fox that there was no daylight between their positions on illegal immigration.”

The above statement was said in 2008 during the campaign. Go back and check my comment @ 89. I left two links for reference.

Gov Palin’s postion hasn’t canged since 09.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3031761/posts?page=89#89


105 posted on 06/16/2013 5:37:34 AM PDT by Clyde5445
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree. It confusing trying to figure it out.


106 posted on 06/16/2013 5:47:58 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: Clyde5445; Timber Rattler

No, she subsequently used just that phrasing in a joint interview she and McCain did with Chris Wallace, I believe it was, on FNC.


107 posted on 06/16/2013 6:21:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Try this one more time that was during the campaign.Since then Gov. Palin was only seen once with McCain and that was during his re-election to the Senate.

What you are talking about was during the Presidential Election. I know I saw the interview in question. It was in the fall of 08 and NOT in 10 as you claimed.


108 posted on 06/16/2013 6:36:15 AM PDT by Clyde5445
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To: Clyde5445

Here’s one joint interview done with Greta, but she was more emphatic on a Sunday interview that they did together:

“VAN SUSTEREN: Governor Palin, if you were vice president today, what would you be telling a President McCain about what to do about immigration, if anything?

PALIN: I support his position on immigration. It all comes down to securing the border. And he who has actually proposed some solutions, the Obama administration does not want to listen to Senator McCain or any other Republican, and that, of course, leads to a greater problem that we have in Washington, D.C. And it’s that lack of the new administration’s ability and enthusiasm for listening to those on the other side of the aisle who have some good solutions that they want considered.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2010/03/27/mccain-and-palin-reunited-and-feeling-good/#ixzz2WO0fK09v


109 posted on 06/16/2013 6:41:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: JaguarXKE

:^)


110 posted on 06/16/2013 8:15:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: Clyde5445

Clyde5445, here it seems at the very least Palin doesn’t want to talk about Amnesty. I can understand her aversion to that on several counts. 1. She doesn’t want the political blow-back and 2. She doesn’t want to encourage more foreign nationals to hurry here to take part.

Both are understandable. Number two is very important. If only George Bush had been wise enough to grasp that.

As for number one, it’s an aversion that puzzles me. These politicians shy away from calling their plans Amnesty, but I believe most U. S. Citizens think of Amnesty as a the illegal staying here and getting citizenship in short order. That’s why they see instant legalization and pathway as more or less the same thing. To most Citizens, Amnesty, Registration and instant legalization, and Pathway as three sides of the same coin.

So Palin doesn’t agree with granting Amnesty. She still seems to agree with the two other sides of the coin.

Honestly, I don’t understand her logic here.

At one moment she doesn’t want to give them a reward, and the next moment she talks of giving them legality and a pathway. That’s why I mentioned that she needs to make a clear public statement refreshing our understanding of here stance on this issue.

It’s great that she opposes this bill. She sounds like she agrees with me when she says she objects. I still have to remind myself that this woman that doesn’t want reward illegals now, was perfectly fine rewarding them after she once before said she didn’t want to reward them.

I appreciate your post. It’s certainly more to think about.


111 posted on 06/16/2013 8:30:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: DoughtyOne

So it’s true what they say.


112 posted on 06/16/2013 8:31:03 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: RedMDer

She’s right about the borders. And she’s right about not talking about Amnesty or giving rewards.

Now, if she doesn’t agree with pathway or instant legalization any longer, then the first paragraph here makes sense.

If she still does agree with those things, then I am baffled as to how she doesn’t see that as a reward.

I am open to the idea that she may have changed her mind, but I do not see this as evidence of it yet. There are some important issues to be clarified here.

I wholeheartedly agree with your inclusion of Article IV Section 4. ‘...and shall protect each of them against Invasion...’

Dam straight. Do your job!


113 posted on 06/16/2013 9:13:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: Jacob Kell

We will see. Please check out my response just above this one. Thanks.


114 posted on 06/16/2013 9:13:51 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: HMS Surprise

No tricks at all...

Her stated policy is her stated policy. There are still issues to be clarified.


115 posted on 06/16/2013 9:15:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: trebb

So another-words I shouldn’t object to 100 million plus new citizens from third world nations in under 20 years.

Evidently I’m just setting the bar too high for ya.


116 posted on 06/16/2013 9:24:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: 9YearLurker

It would be good if she were to go on the air and explain why she disagreed in detail, and explained what would be better.

In that, I could easily change my mind about the value of her being back on the air.

Folks will have to bear with me, watching some folks in positions to help us, and waffling on issues or actually supporting the Left’s position on matters.

I hope Palin does do what you have suggested she might.


117 posted on 06/16/2013 9:27:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: DoughtyOne
Thank you for doing the heavy lifting on this topic, DoughtyOne. You are not alone, despite what your fellow Freepers would have you think.

Immigration is the most important political issue in the country today. Governor Palin needs to lay out her detailed position on immigration in a policy speech, third rail be damned. This would restore her leadership position in the conservative movement.

118 posted on 06/16/2013 9:49:58 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep, I hope this time around on Fox she will make it a habit of detailing very specific positions on issues, and there’s no more important place to start than with illegal immigration.


119 posted on 06/16/2013 9:50:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Timber Rattler
Oh please...don't give me that PDS "compare her to Biden" BS!
I haven't said she was like Biden.  So your "...don't..." "...compare her to Biden..." comment was twisted.  I said that we don't give the Left's vice-presidential candidate (I used Biden as an example only) slack for what they say during the campaign season, and I don't think it's reasoned when we do it for our own either.  We must measure those we support and those we don't support by the same rules, if we're going to be honest with ourselves.  If we're going to support something, or disagree with something, a good yardstick to use is whether we would accept or like it if the other party was supporting it.

You know full well that she was force-fed Steve Schmidt's script for the McCain campaign, that the Univision interview happened long before she went rogue, and that she subsequently told everyone what she really thought about illegal immigration when she went down to Arizona to support Jan Brewer with the demand for a border fence.
So what you are saying, is that if you were running to be vice-president, you would lie your ass off, and totally toss truth to the wind.  Simply brilliant!  And you think I'm disrespectful of Palin.. You must also think Biden isn't responsible for anything he says.  Good to know.  As for Palin's support for Arizona's new immigration laws, it concerns how Arizona will handle illegal immigrants within the state.  It is not a comprehensive immigration reform package for the United States.  It does not set down the policies for illegals becoming legal or becoming U. S. Citizens.  You can't grasp the differences, and I undestand that.  I'm not going to give you a hard time over it.

Give it a break and stop stinking up the thread with your nonsense.

We have all pretty much accepted that illegal immigrants turned citizens generally vote about 70% for the Democrat candidates.  So here you are faced with over 100 million new citizens from this group over the next twenty years, and you reference my expressed concern with how the illegal immigration policies break out, as "stinking up the thread with your nonsense."  One can only wonder what you might find to be more important than this issue.  As far as I am concerned, there is no bigger issue, when it comes to the future of our nation.  So if you don't like the 'stench' of my thoughts, I suggest it might not be related to my thoughts in the open, but rather the proximity of your head, which isn't.

120 posted on 06/16/2013 9:51:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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