Giving your son to a pedophile to take overnight camping is not “fighting”.
Taking your son out is how you fight back.
The Episcopal Church has some attractive properties also.
These people have shown that “money” is the god they worship. You fight that by removing the children from their income stream.
Money Talks, B.S. walks.
“We need to examine the delegates that were sent and how they voted.”
How are delegates chosen? Who do they represent, is apportionment of delegates based on number of units or sheer number of scouts? How does region affect delegates?
FReegards
Why not?
We have given up America withour a fight!
The fight is over.
Too late — this battle should have been settled decades ago and held in place...but it wasn’t...and over a course of time - people became too tried to deal with it...insurgencies last as long as they need to...most US Citizens deal with 2 to 4 yr time lines...anything beyond that - they lose interest.
I think the Boy Scout camp you are referring to is “Boxwell”
Sorry . . . they’re toast. I will not let my kids anywhere near sodomite friendly organizations . . . period.
It’s over, Danny.
It is not an easy position to take, Danny, but I agree with you. I don’t know if the momentum toward liberalism in Scouting can be reversed but at the moment I am willing to try. Largely because of the work my son has done. He is about to turn 15, a Life Scout, and is 6-8 months away from Eagle. To see his effort and that honored tradition simply vanish because of those whose sole motivation in life is to make the world safe for sodomy seems like a courage deficit.
The question of how to fight is crucial, and I am heading to a meeting this morning of Troop leadership to work on exactly that.
I pulled these stats from a thread I saw a couple of days ago.
It represents the number of UNITS across the country and what church organizations are sponsoring them:
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 37,856.
United Methodist Church 10,868.
Catholic Church 8,397.
Presbyterian Church 3,597.
Lutheran Church 3,827.
Baptist churches 3,981.
This pretty much seals it for me... the Mormons OWN scouting, with or without this vote on gays.
It has been made abundantly clear to me that what is really going on here is God’s testing... not just of the BSA, but of the churches themselves, and ultimately the individual.
He is separating the wheat from the chaff.
It is very difficult to fight for that which God is taking from you.
I you help the current perverted leadership by supporting the scouts in its present form, you are part of the problem.
Hear Hear
Walking away from Boy Scouts without a fight against leftist thought infltration is like giving up US citizenship because of obama and the US Congress
Parents control who their kids go camping with and can choose their kids troop leader, become troop leaders or go as chaperones. Cub camping is basically family camping anyway
That way they "appear" to be in control. The fact that they held a secret vote is reason enough to suspect fraud.
I would like to see a split. The traditional scout and the progressive scouts. Take a membership vote on who wants to be in which one, the split the assets based on that vote.
I know it wouldn’t be that simple, but it should be.
It’s usually the liberals who start to die on the vine because the resources primarily come from the conservative members. Staying around will only feed the beast. Take the money and run.
I understand where your heart is, and I wholeheartedly support the idea of fighting back, but you are misidentifying where the problem is. The problem isn’t some vague vote, or showing up with enough votes to overturn a bad decision, the problem is professional scouting and how it has utterly usurped Lord Baden Powell’s book and his ideals.
You want to fight back? Start by rejecting professional scouting. If your council is run by paid staffers, insist that they immediately be fired, that the council offices immediately be closed, and that you will accept no substitution for the all volunteer organization. And should they reject your demand, simply found your own council, seeking those who are in the community, who reflect the values of scouting, to lead that council and continue the tradition of an all volunteer organization.
Because the simple truth is: National doesn’t have enough money to sue every boy scout troop into submission. Yes, they’ve already taken your troop’s trust funds and blown them away, they’ve taken scout camps and sold them off, only to lease them back, along with every string attached that comes with letting others determine your agenda. And once you’ve got your council squared away, reject the national oversight.
You have no need of permission to be a scout, no need for professional scouts, nor the decisions they make only to gain funds to continue professional scouting. When Caterpillar cuts donations, that doesn’t mean that your troop can’t afford a camp out, that means that national can’t afford to hire more people, pay bigger benefits, handle retirement benefits - in other words, the funds for these big ‘donors’ are just going to fund the national organization.
Anything that departs from the core of scouting, of an all volunteer organization, should be rejected. That is the only vote that really matters. It can be scary to do something alone - get other troops to go with you. Because this really isn’t about gays wearing the scouting uniform, it is about restoring the real authorities back. A duty to God, country and obeying the scout law.
The BS is now a mere for-profit corporation. I would have no more heartburn leaving the BSA than I would not shopping a store.
I would never allow my son to stay in the Scouts. Fighting for the Scouts means you’re fighting for the a-holes that allowed gays.