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Even if You Have Nothing to Hide You Have Something to Fear
Townhall.com ^ | June 13, 2013 | Bob Barr

Posted on 06/13/2013 6:58:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: DesertRhino

Obviously they are screeching like stuck pigs that what they are doing has been publicly revealed. So it would seem that, no, they don’t want THEIR every action to be seen.

I believe in a certain amount of security. It would be helpful for a practical application and greatly reduce costs and efforts if only they dared to profile just who they are after. But, oh, no ... they have to spy on everyone rather than offend a few.

(minor point: surprised Barr doesn’t know Nancy Pelosi isn’t a Senator; or he needs better editing)


21 posted on 06/13/2013 8:03:01 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Kaslin

I think we all need to be ready to face the fact that we will likely live to see a situation where the states (red states) will have to stare down a declaration of martial law. Its coming just as sure as we are talking about it.

The Congress of the United States will do nothing to stop the totalitarian apparatus. Neither will the SCOTUS. They are both now totally corrupted.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 8:11:10 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin

Gotta love those who have no problem with the govt spying on every move they make because they have done nothing wrong. Lets see.

Has your bank ever made a mistake and bounced a check when your had deposited the funds to cover it?

Has your landlord ever made a mistake in your rent collection or Security Deposit?

Has the Police ever made a mistake and ticketed you for speeding when you weren’t?

Have you ever gone to court....for ANY reason?

Did YOUR address get mistakenly printed on a Drug Search Warrant?

Has your son or daughter ever been in trouble at school? (like that little girl who said she was going to shoot her friend with soap bubbles and the school put in her permanent records that she was a terrorist threat)

What about that time when your rebellious son was hanging out with the wrong crowd that night and got picked up for Criminal Mischief,
and you went down to the station and signed him out?

How about the other side of you family?
The black sheep side with your same last name?
Don’t they have a son who goes to all those protests with OWS?

What about that nutcase neighbor who heads up the Neighborhood Watch?
Didn’t you piss him off one day by blocking his driveway for five minutes while moving a piano? Did you know that he was Filing Reports on “subversive” neighbors late at night on his computer?

Everything on you is permanent,,,everything. But , hey, there is nothing to fear from the govt, right?


23 posted on 06/13/2013 8:37:25 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I think you can actually do a lot of the things on your list without fear of government repercussions. The main thing is to avoid criticizing government or government officials. Just don’t talk about religion or politics anymore.


24 posted on 06/13/2013 8:43:34 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: schm0e

ok, but I don’t live in China or Russia!


25 posted on 06/13/2013 8:56:10 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Tau Food
The main thing is to avoid criticizing government or government officials. Just don’t talk about religion or politics anymore.

Advocating this on Free Republic? Missing the /sarc tag! We can't hide, the brother has reams of data on us we can't remove!

26 posted on 06/13/2013 9:30:09 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: Kaslin

Snowden is a distraction. William Binney is the real deal.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 9:34:30 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Peter King is just another dictator wannabe. He even LOOKS like a dictator.


28 posted on 06/13/2013 9:46:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Carry_Okie

Who is William Binney?


29 posted on 06/13/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

King is a pig. He supported terrorism for years. (the Irish Republican Army) Yet he wants Snowden to be arrested for treason?


30 posted on 06/13/2013 10:45:09 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Kaslin
Who is William Binney?

Here's an intro.

Here's an interview.

31 posted on 06/13/2013 10:47:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Kaslin
Here is a thread about him from about a week ago.
32 posted on 06/13/2013 10:51:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: EDINVA
I believe in a certain amount of security.

In our Constitutional system, the government was not the source of security, the people were, that "well regulated militia" (which meant that they got regular training).

33 posted on 06/13/2013 11:00:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

If “the people” were to be providers of our national security, they might have been a little fussier about who they let become ‘the people.’ Then none of this would be an issue. The downside of being the most open nation in history.


34 posted on 06/13/2013 11:20:49 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
If “the people” were to be providers of our national security, they might have been a little fussier about who they let become ‘the people.’ Then none of this would be an issue.

I don't think that was the cause. I think it was abrogating their responsibility to integrate the first great immigration wave by taking the bait of public education.

35 posted on 06/13/2013 11:22:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Kaslin

Why do you suppose many cops carry “drop guns?”


36 posted on 06/13/2013 11:28:19 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Kaslin

Bob, weren’t you an elected congressman? Wasn’t there any collection of data, wiretapping and spying while you were in office? This is nothing new and with technology advancing as it has, isn’t going to stop. So what do we as a country do about it? Is national security a priority or does it fall second to individual privacy?


37 posted on 06/13/2013 11:40:35 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Tau Food
The main thing is to avoid criticizing government or government officials.

When they get to the point of requiring criticism, assist them in having an "accident". Or choose the triple S option.

This all assumes, of course, that the ballot box option is no longer feasible.

38 posted on 06/13/2013 12:06:44 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Kaslin

BTTT!


39 posted on 06/13/2013 2:29:49 PM PDT by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

I know — just pointing out the rhetoric. Everything’s always the US’s fault.


40 posted on 06/13/2013 3:37:56 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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