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Ryan lost a debate to Joe Biden. Good luck Paul.
1 posted on 06/12/2013 2:27:40 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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OK, Paul, let’s do it here!


28 posted on 06/12/2013 2:37:17 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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I think I hear Ryan’s phone ringing, I think it’s Mark Levin...


29 posted on 06/12/2013 2:37:48 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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Amnesty is wiping the slate clean and not paying any penalty for having done something wrong."

BS. Many states and localities have had tax amnesty programs where if you pay the tax you owe you will not be subject to other fines and interest penalties. But you still have to obey the law. The immigration equivalent of that amnesty program would be the illegal alien starts obeying the law, i.e. return home, and further penalties won't apply to them like temporary or permanent prevention of them ever entering the US legally.

Thus going home and obeying the law in the future without being penalized for having been here would itself be an amnesty program. An even more generous program would then of course be an amnesty. Even if you pay a "fine" under the proposed law, when that fine is a much smaller penalty than the current law (deportation and not being allowed to immigrate legally in the future) then it is an amnesty.

30 posted on 06/12/2013 2:38:09 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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Yep, getting you a** whupped by Plugs isn’t a shining endorsement.
Q: “Tell us anywhere in the USA where increase in immigration has resulted in more Republican voters other than Cuba refugees in parts of Florida?”
A: “Let me show you my budget plan for a balanced budget in 10 years”


31 posted on 06/12/2013 2:39:55 PM PDT by Zathras
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Obama will add Amnesty just before he signs it .


35 posted on 06/12/2013 2:45:06 PM PDT by molson209
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>> provisions... that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

... unless, of course, all those tough-sounding provisions are waived or rubber-stamped by the DHS. As you KNOW they will be.

Take a flying leap, Ryan. Loser POS.


36 posted on 06/12/2013 2:45:14 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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“Earned legalization is not amnesty,” Ryan said”

Trying to bamboozle us with not-so-clever semantics? What a tool!

“Earned legalization”, step 1: Illegally enter the U.S. or illegally remain after visa expires.

Break our immigration laws and “earn” yourself a big reward from Ryan and his buddies in the open borders cabal.


37 posted on 06/12/2013 2:45:33 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Illegals already get all kinds of taxpayer funded benefits, not to mention the jobs they take from Americans.

I know illegals that are on welfare, who receive health care benefits at my expense and whose children go to school on my dime.

They gather and protest openly with little or no loyalty to America and have the most entrenched sense of entitlement of any group I know of.

But hey, it's not amnesty..right?

What the hell else do you call it?

I bet when all the Republicans in Washington get together they probably don't have the collective IQ of the average house cat.

Who do you think these folks will vote for when you give them the few rights they don't already have? Republican? I've got news for you, they will show you no loyalty what so ever for anything you do for them and pull the lever for the Democrats the first chance they get. Got it??!!

38 posted on 06/12/2013 2:45:49 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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Braindead dumbazz Biden whipped the skinny leg lying Boy Scout Ryan. This little prick could not deliver his home state to deadazz Romney, think he may be turned out of his comfy House seat?


39 posted on 06/12/2013 2:48:25 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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“That,” Ryan said, “is not amnesty.”


AND it’s probably not... THIS WEEK!!!..

soon as it passes it can and WILL BE amended/changed/altered/morphed/slippery sloped/adjusted/connived/updated
TO BE AMNESTY..

Some things in the bill will be ENFORCED other things will be IGNORED..
You know.. the way its always done TO REPUBLICANS.. even IF they are the majority..

DEMOCRATS are relentless, REPUBLICANS are Lazy, half-hearted, doubled minded, very confused..
Its the extremely rare republican that’s focused...

The ONLY way to get a democrat to release their cold dead hands from POWER....
IS by making their hands cold and dead.. by civil unrest..
But only democrats have the balls to do that..


Prepare yourselves soon it will be said, “I remember when there was a republican party”..
“THE”.... Coup D’Etat has ALREADY happened..
America has been “JUDGED” and came up Evil...

Obama is just PUNISHMENT..


40 posted on 06/12/2013 2:49:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Amnesty means receiving the benefit but having to pay a DIFFERENT penalty than the law requires.

In other words, if the beneficiary is not required to pay the penalty prescribed by law, but is given a lesser penalty instead, that is amnesty.

This bill IS amnesty.

Ryan is WRONG.


41 posted on 06/12/2013 2:50:16 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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Definition of amnesty (n)

Bing Dictionary

am·nes·ty

1.pardon: a general pardon, especially for those who have committed political crimes

2.prosecution-free period: a period during which crimes can be admitted or illegal weapons handed in without prosecution

3.pardon somebody: to grant an amnesty to somebody


43 posted on 06/12/2013 2:51:35 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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The pieces of silver are flowing like a raging river in Washington nowadays...


44 posted on 06/12/2013 2:53:12 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Sit down, Paul. No one is interested in debating you on anything anymore.


45 posted on 06/12/2013 2:54:00 PM PDT by AdaGray
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Ryan pointed to provisions baked into the Senate bill from the beginning that require those in the United States to pay a fine, back taxes, undergo background checks and enter a years-long probationary period before earning citizenship, a process that can take up to 15 years.

Mister Obama, or his judges, will remove all of these bothersome issues, one suspects.

Amnesty, amnesty, amnesty, and amnesty.

Debate won.

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46 posted on 06/12/2013 2:55:00 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Let me get this straight ... we will get law breakers to obey the law by passing even more laws for them to obey ?

Is there a way to remove someone from office when it can be proven that they are insane ?

47 posted on 06/12/2013 2:55:41 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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Real simple Paul. In the bill, is there a way where an illegal can end up a citizen, with rights, benefits and a vote? "Well yes but..." No buts about it Paul, no debate - that's amnesty.

Do not reward illegals with anything! Ever! Send their law breaking backsides back home where they belong, and charge them for the bus ticket!

49 posted on 06/12/2013 2:57:46 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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I used to like Paul Ryan. That was back in the day before he went stark raving mad.


51 posted on 06/12/2013 2:59:37 PM PDT by Gritty (Our Government is erecting a panopticon state that sees everything, regulates everything-Mark Steyn)
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How can it not be amnesty when you don’t charge a person with the crime committed, and you let them stay?


52 posted on 06/12/2013 3:02:23 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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I am ready to debate...bring it on Amnesty Liberal


53 posted on 06/12/2013 3:02:50 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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