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To: BuckeyeTexan; montanajoe

YEs,thus far I agree with Mountainjoe.... already Alkaida and Terrorist groups are switching their communication since Snowdens leaks....via Fox news this morning...

you can’t say it hasn’t affected how the enemy behaves...and that now makes all the more areas of communication security teams now have to monitor, spreading out all the more in order to follow.


246 posted on 06/12/2013 5:16:32 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww; montanajoe

Please explain how the ever-changing communication methods of foreign terrorists creates probable cause for the NSA to search and seize the electronic communications of all U.S. citizens?

How do you reconcile that with the 4th Amendment right of every individual U.S. citizen to be secure in his papers and effects from unreasonable search and seizure?

I am not being adversarial. I truly want to understand why both of you believe that national security interests outweigh a sacred constitional guarantee.

montanajoe has asserted that there is precedent for suspending constitutional liberties during a time of war. While that is true, I would point out that previous wars fit the mold of conventional war within a finite period of time. The WOT, however, is unconventional with an indefinite timeframe. Are we to suspend constitional liberties indefinitely?

I think this quandry is the result of our unwillingness to engage in total war against radical Islam with an end result of total destruction. We broke our own rule of “you’re either with us or you’re against us.” Why should our civil liberties be the price for failure of leadership in a time of war?


251 posted on 06/12/2013 6:34:09 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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