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Why were roadblocks in St. Clair, Bibb counties asking for blood & DNA samples this weekend? (AL)
The Birmingham News/AL.com ^ | 6/10/13 | William Thornton

Posted on 06/10/2013 3:32:45 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl

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To: Smokin' Joe
Stupid question.

Did yo read the article?

Off-duty St. Clair County deputies stopped cars at random at road block areas. The road blocks were marked with signs stating it was a paid survey. Cars stopped were asked for voluntary cooperation. Drivers were offered $10 for a mouth swab, and $50 for a blood test. If they refused, they were free to drive away.

361 posted on 06/11/2013 10:23:28 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Everything above the line was quoted from you. That was in your statement.


362 posted on 06/11/2013 10:44:59 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan
That was in your statement.

Nowhere did I state that teenagers were swabbed without parental permission. I don't believe any of us know if indeed any teenagers were involved. Do you?

363 posted on 06/11/2013 10:52:14 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: toolman1401

1964 - Supreme Court Decision on Prayer in Public Schools:

Congress shall make no laws regarding the establishment of religion, nor prohibit the “Free Exercise” thereof.

They Courts bastardized the first amendment and it continues to this day.


364 posted on 06/11/2013 10:58:07 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Alaska Wolf

I wasn’t talking about passengers.


365 posted on 06/11/2013 11:38:45 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Chickensoup
I wasn’t talking about passengers.

It is difficult ascertaining exactly what you are "talking about".

366 posted on 06/11/2013 11:41:09 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I have no idea. I didn’t even comment on teenagers. Check your post #47


367 posted on 06/11/2013 12:04:03 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan
Everything above the line was quoted from you. That was in your statement.

Do you know why sentences in italics are used? Yes or no?

368 posted on 06/11/2013 12:07:19 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: LevinFan
. Check your post #47

You have no clue about sentences in italics, do you?

369 posted on 06/11/2013 12:15:19 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Of course I read the article. It said that people were being "randomly" pulled over. If these people had committed no crime and the officers were in uniform and had their vehicles there (whether on duty or not, the appearance would be that they are), there is no justification for stopping people under the apparent color of law to participate in a voluntary survey.

The same survey/sampling could have been conducted on a street corner or at a rest area without imposing on anyone who did not wish to participate, without disrupting the normal flow of traffic, and could have been conducted without requiring a police presence.

What's next, police roadblocks to sell Girl Scout cookies?

370 posted on 06/11/2013 12:24:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe
there is no justification for stopping people under the apparent color of law to participate in a voluntary survey.

Without randomly stopping traffic, how can one ask the travelers if they'd be willing to participate in a survey?

371 posted on 06/11/2013 12:32:01 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Put up a sign. Volunteers needed/ participate in survey/ fee paid/ Next right.

Every business, every High School cheerleader fundraiser car wash, etc. does just that.

No police presence required.

372 posted on 06/11/2013 12:35:13 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Why so shocked?

It hit too close to home. I usually pretty pro-LE but this turned my stomach.

373 posted on 06/11/2013 3:58:27 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: Alaska Wolf

When you used it, i understood you were quoting. My phone doesn’t let me use italics, so i substituted. Again, i wasn’t commenting on the teens part of the comment.


374 posted on 06/12/2013 5:18:05 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan
i wasn’t commenting on the teens part of the comment.

So what was your purpose in posting it?

375 posted on 06/12/2013 7:00:18 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Try reading the rest of it.


376 posted on 06/12/2013 10:05:59 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan

Here, i’ll make it easy.

Were the drivers forced to go through it?
“No!”

_____________

They were if they needed to get to the
other side. And dodging a road block
does routinely get pork attention.

And why should anyone have to detour or
stop?


377 posted on 06/12/2013 10:08:49 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan

So what was your purpose in posting the teen part?


378 posted on 06/12/2013 11:46:12 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

You had asked the question
“Were the drivers forced to go through it?
“No!”

_____________

My answer was, Yes they were forced to go through the road block. If their trip took them to the other side of the road block, then they had little choice.
And dodging a road block is a very good way to get pork attention. It looks guilty and has the cop wondering why you are avoiding them.

Then I asked one basic question. For this situation, why should the cops have had the power to stop anyone? I question the use of checkpoints of any kind stopping people without reasonable suspicion or probable cause, let alone one that forcibly stops people for some blinking research project.

You want to do a volunteer project? Put up a sign and invite people to stop. Don’t use the popo to force them to stop.


379 posted on 06/12/2013 2:21:52 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: LevinFan
And dodging a road block is a very good way to get pork attention

Pork? What are you, a food taster?

380 posted on 06/12/2013 2:47:35 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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