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Beyond Hong Kong: Edward Snowden's best options for asylum
Guardian UK ^ | Monday 10 June 2013 10.33 EDT | Owen Bowcott and Alexandra Topping

Posted on 06/10/2013 8:16:22 AM PDT by Perdogg

Edward Snowden's choice of Hong Kong as a refuge from US retribution has been admired by some international lawyers – but it has not quelled speculation that he may seek asylum in another state thereafter, and activists in Iceland are making preparations should the whistleblower try to head there.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nsaleaker; snowden
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1 posted on 06/10/2013 8:16:22 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Ecuador seems to love these types.


2 posted on 06/10/2013 8:19:37 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

“These types?”

The man is a hero.

He should return here for trial so that Anonymous can release more of the documents they’re holding as insurance for him.

That would give these internationalists another shot in the ass.

The Fourth Amendment should rule.


3 posted on 06/10/2013 8:25:09 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9

If Snowden makes it to Beijing. I’m inviting him to a beer Summit. When Bush White House officials leaked stories, they were considered heroes. But when Obama’s White House officials start leaking, than the MSM declares them traitors and deserving of death. Well, I’m gonna play by the partisan rules. Snowden, ‘This Bud’s for you,” and “I’ll buy the first round.”


4 posted on 06/10/2013 8:32:55 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: warchild9
The man is a hero.

Oh, of course he is.

He should return here for trial

Would that be even more heroic than running away?

so that Anonymous can release more of the documents they’re holding as insurance for him

They are also all heroes, right?

That would give these internationalists another shot in the ass.

Because Snowden, Anonymous and Assange (heroes all) aren't internationalists themselves?

The Fourth Amendment should rule.

Indeed. Neither the government nor anonymous hackers should be allowed to violate personal security.

5 posted on 06/10/2013 8:32:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Perdogg

Man it’s too bad glm’s vanity on this topic was pulled comparing Manning and Snowden.
His vanity posting license should be revoked forever.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 8:35:44 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wideawake

I agree with your last.

I’m not convinced of your fourth point. It’s entirely possible we’re only witnessing a very tiny portion of some greater, ongoing struggle within Big Money circles.

If that’s the case, this affair just keeps getting more interesting.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 8:36:18 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9

I wouldn’t call him a hero. He voted for Obama. That negates what he did. Sort of like him setting the house on fire and then putting a small section of it out. That’s not a hero.


8 posted on 06/10/2013 8:38:45 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Perdogg

We must track the emails, phone calls, text messages, financial transactions and other forms of communication for all American citizens. Its required for national security to stop the barbarian goat herders in Afghanistan who don’t even have electricity.

Forget that we know who the terrorists are already. We could get a warrant for them. No we must track every single American citizens every single waking thought. Do it for the children!!!

/s


9 posted on 06/10/2013 8:40:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Actually he voted for Ron Paul.


10 posted on 06/10/2013 8:44:52 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Voting for President is irrelevant. Read the Twelfth Amendment, section 1, article 3.

What Snowden did bolsters the Fourth, and compensates for any illusory bad intentions he may have possessed in the past.


11 posted on 06/10/2013 8:45:28 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Perdogg

I always think the worst of this administration.
In my opinion, they probably snooped on Republicans only, otherwise why weren’t Capt. Hasan and the Boston bombers caught beforehand?


12 posted on 06/10/2013 8:48:16 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I agree. For now.. This whole thing's a bit too scripted if you ask me.. Almost as if he's put out there to take everyone's eyes off the ball; the IRS, DOJ spying and Benghazi scandals. Part of 0bama's overall deconstruction of American institutions so that only ONE is left; the DICTATORIAL BRANCH.

Otherwise, if Snowden ends up in China we'll know he was a spy for China and perhaps that is what 0bama discussed with the Chinese president during his visit. Still doesn't mean 0bama wasn't in on it though.

13 posted on 06/10/2013 8:49:49 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

There are LOTS of techies with libertarian leanings of the Ron Paul/Rand Paul variety. Many of them working as Government contractors.

We’ve not seen the last of these leaks.


14 posted on 06/10/2013 8:50:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
You've never made a mistake, realized it, and then tried to fix it?

Envy you, I do, ermmmm.

15 posted on 06/10/2013 9:00:32 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: warchild9

I just saw the Snowden video on a Chinese news station. Here are some things to note. It’s not a big story in China. But I’m good at reading eyes. Here’s my take, he seems legit, meaning feels guilty for helping Obama’s espionage network. He looks normal, not the Alex Jones type. But he doesn’t seem to have much common sense and somewhat naive. He’s a bit nervous, but that’s to be expected. He may feel that he’s going to get protection, but I don’t think anyone’s made any guarantees with him. Hence, he could get thrown under the bus. Yes, he’s got an inflated opinion of himself. But how many of us Americans don’t have that problem? He appears to enjoy the attention but not aware of how dangerous his situation really is. He may soon get a wake up call. He’s relatively calm under pressure, which may explain how he gots his promotions at the NSA. However, I still think he had good intentions leaking the information because he wants to warn the USA about the dictatorial powers of the government. But his biggest weakness appears to be that he is seeking the spotlight and wants global recognition. Accordingly, many will perceive his weakness as malevolent, when in actuality he’s just thinking like a fool. Trust me there’s a BIG difference. For example: Biden is a fool; Obama and Hillary are malevolent.


16 posted on 06/10/2013 9:10:37 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Perdogg

He could probably live in Boston.

No chance the NSA/CIA/FBI could find him there.

Probably drive around with a license plate reading: “Leaker1”


17 posted on 06/10/2013 9:11:54 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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I know a lot of illegals in Tucson. He could blend right in and sell tamales at Target in the parking lot. I wonder if he speaks Mexican.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 9:13:06 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Perdogg

Edward Snowden is a pretty bizarre (or maybe bat-guano CRAZY) character, at one time a True Believer in the Current Regime, who has lost his religion. Thinking that the phone surveillance would stop with the election of his idol, the Current Occupant of the White Hut, he mistakenly held back from blowing the whistle while Bush was still in office.

But as it turns out, the Current Occupant is more Nixonian than Richard Nixon himself. Because it was all in a “good and just cause”, the phone surveillance was continued, and if anything, greatly expanded to include much of the Internet.

There is no longer much of ANYTHING that is “Bush’s fault”, as there has been ample opportunity since January 2009 to repeal any and all of these programs. If Obama continues to employ these means, it is because he finds huge advantage to keeping them in place.

If only they were used for their original purpose, which was to detect and neutralize FOREIGN threats. But the program has been repurposed to keep watch on US citizens.

The Current Regime has become the enemy.


19 posted on 06/10/2013 9:15:47 AM PDT by alloysteel (When did the government suddenly become our psycho ex-girlfriend? - Jay Leno)
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To: TexGrill

I’ve seen the same video. This guy seems—at once—frightened, arrogant, confused, proud that he did the right thing, and rather naive.

He’s a 29-year-old genius who’s taking on the most powerful, corrupted organization in history—the US Government. I’d feel a little pressure, too!

Your points are well-taken. And I think he could have handled the whole affair better, starting with NOT running to our avowed Communist Chinese enemies. However, I still wish him well.


20 posted on 06/10/2013 9:16:59 AM PDT by warchild9
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