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Bolton: NSA leaker Edward Snowden is guilty of treason
WLS ^ | June 10, 2013 | John Dempsey

Posted on 06/10/2013 7:31:41 AM PDT by maggief

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To: maggief

Bolton, true to form. What a pos.


41 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:09 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: maggief

I’ve always had a dual attitude toward Bolton. He has been strong on defense against foreign threats. He was good at the UN. But he never struck me as very conservative in other respects. Or at least, not that one could tell.

The problem is, we have a government and a security system that waves bunches of Muslims in burnooses on board airplanes without any inspection, that admits Saudis without even questioning them, that instructs the military to say that they must never question or offend Muslims but need to keep a tight lid on Christians.

You know darned well that any information sucked up by these programs will be used not to identify Muslim terrorists, but to spy on Tea Partiers and conservatives and gun owners.

If we’re worried about terrorists planning attacks in this country, then maybe we shouldn’t admit them by the millions and put them on welfare. Just yesterday, they were babbling about admitting any Syrian terrorists who feel threatened by Assad.

What that means, of course, is that the “security” put in place by Bush was mistaken, because even if he meant well, it was a very bad precedent, when even in his day all the security agencies were overrun by Clintonoids and leftists.


42 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I’m not dismissing it. I want to go after the bigger fish.

Absolutely.

43 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:17 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I used to support Mr. Bolton.
But the Nuremberg Defense of Obama Domestic Spying will not attract many non fascists in the long run, and seems to have exposed the fascists under the fig leaves of Republican politics.
‘Just Following Orders’ did not work for the other Nazis as a defense and even the wimpy Media is squeaking about the abuse.
The issue is not about a whistleblower, but illegal,amoral, unconstitutional spying, peeking and prying in order to advance a domestic, partisan political agenda.
TWB
44 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:18 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: maggief

Wow.

When John Bolton decides he wants to jump the shark, he doesn’t mess around.


45 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:33 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: maggief
Two things that we need to clarify:

(1) How can Snowden not be a traitor and Manning be a traitor?

This distinction needs to be made, otherwise the left will say: "The right said Manning was a traitor because his actions made Obama look bad on national security, but they are calling Snowden a patriot because his actions makes Obama look bad on civil liberties."

(2) If Snowden is not committing treason, then is there even such a thing as treason?

46 posted on 06/10/2013 7:50:08 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: maggief
The foreign interventionists in the Republican party are in full defense mode.

They are totally on board with the idea of monitoring domestic phone calls. All in the name of our safety. Guess they didn't listen to Ben.

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

--- Benjamin Franklin

47 posted on 06/10/2013 7:50:16 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: maggief

Is Bolton implying MOST Americans are willing to surrender their 4th amendment rights to grab a handfull of demented Muslims?????

Hardly surprising since Bolton was a key element in the administration of the idiot who preceded the current idiot.

I just lost a lot of repsect for Bolton.


48 posted on 06/10/2013 7:50:19 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: maggief

49 posted on 06/10/2013 7:50:40 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: maggief

Is Bolton implying MOST Americans are willing to surrender their 4th amendment rights to grab a handfull of demented Muslims?????

Hardly surprising since Bolton was a key element in the administration of the idiot who preceded the current idiot.

I just lost a lot of repsect for Bolton.


50 posted on 06/10/2013 7:50:49 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: maggief

I waiting to hear Mark Levin’s opinion on this. AFAIK he hasn’t said anything about it yet.


51 posted on 06/10/2013 7:51:34 AM PDT by Walmartian (I'm their leader. Which way did they go?)
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To: CityCenter

Did Snowden really tell us anything we didn’t already know?


No, he didn’t. Anyone paying attention has known about the NSA data mining the electronic world. The curse of increased technology will always be decreased privacy. We willingly subject ourselves to this when we search the world wide web and the companies we search with use our searches to target advertisements to us and sell our information to others. We subject ourselves to this when we go to websites that put cookies on our computers to track our habits.

I would argue google and yahoo know more about us than the NSA. This is a difficult situation and the real question should be “what did congress know and when did they know it.” I believe they have to approve this if it is legal. If they did not approve it, I believe Rand Paul is correct and this was illegal.


52 posted on 06/10/2013 7:51:42 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: central_va

central_va: “Snowden could of done all of this anonymously ala “Deep Throat”. He outed himself for the 15 minutes of fame.”

Perhaps, but I find the information more reliable now that I know who released it. I also believe him when he says system administrators see far more than a typical employee. A system administrator is privy to the most sensitive internal workings and traffic on a network.

I think the government would have had an easier time letting this blow over if the whistleblower wasn’t known. “Government sources” doesn’t carry as much weight as “Edward Snowden, NSA system administrator.”


53 posted on 06/10/2013 7:52:39 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: central_va

So you think that preferring to have the courage to come out with this publically, knowing he’s signing his own death warrant, is ‘looking for his 15 minutes of fame ‘?


54 posted on 06/10/2013 7:52:41 AM PDT by boxlunch (Isaiah 41:10)
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To: maggief
All due respect to John Bolton....

MR. AMBASSADOR -- SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE...

...Unless and until you are willing to call out the DIMS' entire DC cabal from the top down:

[Count 1]
FOR MUCH MORE SERIOUS AND SERIAL BREACH OF DUTY....

[Count 2]
INTENTIONAL DECEIT IN ELECTORAL POLITICS, AND IN OFFICE (UNDER COLOR OF LAW)....
--AND--

[Count 3]
WITH INTENTIONAL ABJECT FAILURE TO KEEP THE OATH OF OFFICE...

************

May God hold them up PUBLICLY to the inescapable light of Truth and His definition Justice!

GRRRRR.... and DANG IT.....
Everyone is afraid of these people...

WHERE ARE THE FEARLESS CHAMPIONS OF AMERICAN LIBERTY??

55 posted on 06/10/2013 7:55:02 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: volunbeer
I would argue google and yahoo know more about us than the NSA.

Google and Yahoo do not carry the power of the state to audit, harass and prosecute.

56 posted on 06/10/2013 7:55:11 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sandy Berger literally stole and made sensitive documents disappear.

He got probation and his security clearance back.


57 posted on 06/10/2013 7:55:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: maggief

Our government is afraid “we the people” will know what they know. WoW


58 posted on 06/10/2013 7:55:35 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: maggief

Sorry, John.

I totally disagree.

When the government is violating Americans’ Constitutional freedoms so blatantly,it is a duty to speak out.

The Constitution does not require years of legal training to understand. Any reasonable person of goodwill and integrity who can read will have little difficulty understanding the intent to forge a limited government.

Many years of education and training ARE required in order to twist the language of the Constitution in order to enable undeclared wars, gun confiscation,abortion,DUI roadblocks,seizures of property without conviction of a crime, incarceration or killing of citizens without trials, and all the other attacks on private freedom and property ownership.


59 posted on 06/10/2013 7:56:00 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: CitizenUSA

Look, a lot of civilians at Verizon knew what was happening, There are two sides to the information equation. The Verizon employees/management that facilitated this are also culpable. Verizon could have just told the Federal Govt to shove it.


60 posted on 06/10/2013 7:56:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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