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Paul weighs Supreme Court challenge to NSA surveillance programs
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| June 9, 2013
| Meghashyam Mali
Posted on 06/09/2013 8:34:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
06/09/2013 6:34:53 PM PDT
by
TArcher
("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
To: unixfox
A republic is a system of governance characterized by the rule of Law.
If we don’t fight, we lose.
Make the Übertermites openly defend their subversion of America.
42
posted on
06/09/2013 6:59:42 PM PDT
by
TArcher
("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
To: Black Agnes
>> All the Patriot Act did was make their ongoing data collection activities legal.
More like the recognition of legitimacy necessary for prosecution. But whatever preceded the visibility wasn’t necessarily illegal but probably not admissible.
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posted on
06/09/2013 11:07:13 PM PDT
by
Gene Eric
(Don't be a statist!)
To: Tau Food
My criticism of Paul is that he keeps coming up with simpleton proposals that are certain to not change anything and I have to assume that he feels some compulsion to make proposals even though they are meaningless so that he can appear to be doing something. I'm with you. I see the same thing. Just like his Dad he can pontificate clearly what's WRONG but I haven't seen much in the way of doing anything to CHANGE or FIX it.
To: Regulator
GO, RAND, GO! THIS SENATOR IS DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE! SUPPORT HIM AND BACK HIM. Enough talk..more action. We must support those politicians like Rand and Ted Cruz and a few others.
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posted on
06/10/2013 12:24:33 AM PDT
by
itssme
To: Black Agnes
I used to collect foreign voice messages for the U.S.Navy. Any decryption was performed at NSA. We were forbidden - BY LAW - from listening or copying any telephone or radio messages that involved Americans. To do so was punishable by Courts Martial.
I served between 1980 - 1986.
Don’t be so paranoid, Agnes.
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posted on
06/10/2013 1:08:26 AM PDT
by
SatinDoll
(NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
To: Sacajaweau
"I'm almost thinking that this is a diversion from the IRS and other data dipping. And Obamacare is right around the corner. " This just dovetails right into the other scandals and Obamacare...many thought Judge Roberts was intimidated to rule for Obamacare.
47
posted on
06/10/2013 3:36:55 AM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
To: SatinDoll
Because nobody ever breaks the law.
Because you were a peon, they weren’t going to trust you with that.
Because those *other* alphabet agencies are so law abiding. Like the EPA, FBI, DOJ, IRS. I’m sure they’re all so law abiding a quarter of a century later.
BTW, the patriot act changed the ROE’s to allow them to listen in on Americans. It’s why the NSA has gigantic facilities and is building out even more.
This kind of database and information is a despots dream come true. Instant dictatorship, just add despot. We might just have that despot now. If not this one, certainly one on the way. It’s inevitable some human will avail themselves of this power and control.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rand can be a putz, but this time, he’s 100% on target. GO RAND GO!
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posted on
06/10/2013 3:56:17 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
To: Gadsden1st
Because the supreme court has worked so well lately.EXACTLY! They will rule it is legal just like Omamacare and then where will we be?
Where will we be?
One hundred percent aware that we have fully become the Soviet Union in all regards.
That is useful information.
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posted on
06/10/2013 3:58:42 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
To: SatinDoll
I used to collect foreign voice messages for the U.S.Navy. Any decryption was performed at NSA. We were forbidden - BY LAW - from listening or copying any telephone or radio messages that involved Americans. To do so was punishable by Courts Martial. I served between 1980 - 1986I believe you.
But that was then.
This is now.
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posted on
06/10/2013 3:59:43 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
To: ncfool
Seems that Holder when asked by Senator Kirk today had a great response. Holder was asked specifically about snooping on Congress. In his answer, he added the Supreme Court. The proverbial Freudian slip..
52
posted on
06/10/2013 4:06:03 AM PDT
by
IamConservative
(The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
To: SatinDoll
"We were forbidden - BY LAW - from listening or copying any telephone or radio messages that involved Americans. .....I served between 1980 - 1986"You do realize that was over 27 years ago, almost three decades ago.
53
posted on
06/10/2013 4:11:48 AM PDT
by
Earthdweller
(Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
To: Black Agnes
When I was in school, my professor told me that by being a Chemical Engineer we were sure to have at least a file at some agency.
I can support this suet. Of course to many here on FR questioning the need for the blanket wire taps is viewed as treason and worthy of death, but so be it.
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posted on
06/10/2013 4:15:35 AM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: redgolum
I was told if one had a PhD in a STEM field your file was at least 1” thick.
Wonder how they manage that now that most STEM PhD’s are chicoms and middle easterners.
To: IamConservative
.
.
- When you compose and send an email just make sure you “CC” a few really whacko radical leftie politicians in Congress
Then “BCC” your actual intended recipients
Spread the wealth.
Let the IRS and NSA figure that out
Compose your emails in the FR /s style
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posted on
06/10/2013 4:25:51 AM PDT
by
devolve
To: PghBaldy; Tau Food
Ted Cruz has said something about the NSA scandal. Internet search engines are your friends if you care to find out what he said.
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posted on
06/10/2013 4:38:07 AM PDT
by
txrangerette
("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
To: All
given the recent history of the court’s deference to the executive, this seems like a fools errand. A necessary one but almost a an exercise in futility. Who knows, maybe we will be surprised.
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posted on
06/10/2013 4:46:28 AM PDT
by
newnhdad
(Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
To: LostInBayport
yup either Roberts is a closet bone smuggler....or there was some ‘problems’ with his foreign adopted children.
Either way the regime has him by the short hairs(perhaps he likes that) and he needs to resign......once the current regime is out of office.
59
posted on
06/10/2013 4:50:31 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: rarestia
Wish they were as concerned with Benghazi as they are with this. Weve known for years that big brother is watching us online. This is not a new revelation. This is just another distraction to pull away our attention from Benghazi, the real scandal.
this is not a distraction, IMO. I'm not as willing as you are to accept "big brother" watching me online. It is possible for our govt to screw up more than one thing at a time. Do you think we should neglect unconstitutional govt surveillance because you think the Benghazi "scandal" outranks it? (That was a rhetorical question)
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posted on
06/10/2013 5:23:06 AM PDT
by
Girlene
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