Posted on 06/08/2013 7:27:08 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
Phv 4- 6 grade here
I think you’ve hit on something there. I think we should employ that idea for police here in the US. We’ll keep them inside the police station until a crime is committed. If you can ignore the sheer number of rapes robberies, and murders that will occur because no one is around to detour them, think of the savings.
If there is a war in the mid east or any other potential trouble spot our planes delivering tanks, troops and bullets will pass right over Germany. Only they will have no place to land since you pulled out all the infrastructure to support them.
I suppose you can say we got no business being anywhere in the first place. Being isolationist did not work out very well at Pearl Harbor and things have not improved in our favor since. Bad guys got nukes now, do you think a surprise attack will be less or or more deadly the next time some third world hell hole wants to take your lunch money? What enemy is going to give us a year to move from the US to the front lines this time?
Wiesbaden for me, too: 1978-81, Camp Pieri, 1/333d Field Artillery (LANCE). My first child was born in 1980 at the US Air Force Hospital in Wiesbaden and we lived in the Hainerberg Housing Area, near the commissary and the dependent school. My wife was a substitute teacher at the school and we bowled at a German bowling alley near the American Arms, the BOQ/transient quarters.
We went to Heidelberg several times in those years, always stopping at the castle.
I served at Ray Barracks in the ate 80s, too.
Christ Kindle Markt (Crist Child Market)
Munchen (Munich) had the best I had seen in the square below the Glokenspiel. now on the ground, roasting of nuts and all sorts of goodies filled the air from all the small booths. Most memorable were the Christmas ornaments hand-made from straw.
Correction - Christkindlemarkt.
My mother was born in Bad Tolz in 1932. Married my father in Oberamagau in 1950. Sister was born in Frankfurt. After a stint at Ft. Bliss (where I was hatched) and two tours of Korea, we went back to Germany. Stuttgart, Kelley barracks.
And the mulled wine - the Germans do darned good mulled wine... Wish I could still remember what they called it!
Same things happened in Yokohama in the 60s. The massive American footprint evaporated and with it went Yo-Hi (later named Nile C. Kinnick High School when the Navy ran everything.) Two large housing areas for military dependents and the commesary-PX complex were turned over to the Japanese government. Today, there’s no trace we were ever there.
will find out. My Mom is still with us and still working.
Gluhwein, the nectar of the gods!
And Wiesbaden was our hospital/big commissary base! I was too young but my friends’ older siblings high schooled across the river there.
Mainz is becoming more uh diverse with every passing year. We left a vacuum, for sure.
Spent 4 years at Zweibrucken. Man, if you couldn’t like Zwei then there was no place overseas you would like.
Gluhwein! Umlaut over the letter U.
The US Army maintained a pretty nice golf course in Heidelberg: http://www.mwrgermany.com/HD/golf/golf.htm
Maybe the CinC can sneak in a few holes before they shut it down.
This is so sad to hear. I went to MTV elementary for 6th grade and for 7th grade, was at Heidelberg High before the middle school was built in PHV (75-76).
I have great memories of basketball games in the gym, since I lived very close to the high school. Not to mention softball and Girl Scout camps throughout Germany. Dad had 3 other duty stations from 72-74, but Heidelberg was my favorite.
The GOP war enthusiasts keep pointing to WWII as evidence that “isolationism doesn’t work.”
There would have been no WWII if we hadn’t gotten involved in WWI, and if our brainless prat of a president, Woodrow Wilson, hadn’t come up with his idiotic notions that led to the League of Nations. If we had allowed the Europeans to destroy themselves in WWI without our tipping the balance, they would have had nothing left with which to start WWII.
Police already stop almost no crime, BTW. They show up after the fact and take a report and clean up the bodies. If you need education on their lack of any duty to “protect” individuals, I recommend you read Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005), a ruling by the US Supreme Court which has settled for once and all the issue of what the police have a duty to do, and it isn’t “stop crime.”
Here’s the bottom line for all those who want a “robust foreign policy:”
We’re broke. The only way to preserve our sovereignty in the very near future will be to cut the budget deficit as quickly and deeply as possible and reverse the absurd fiscal and monetary policies that are causing other nations to dispose of the US dollar as a global reserve currency even now. When the US dollar is no longer the reserve currency, oil will likely no longer be priced in US dollars, and at that point, it’s game over for the US economy.
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