[Black Agnes]

But something changed in ‘07. Something critical. It’s fair to assume they’ve been around for decades. With a black budget. For decades.

Congressional leadership is the only thing that changed in ‘07 that I’m aware of. I suspect all this would have been implemented earlier had Bush and congress not been pubbie or nearly so starting in ‘01.

This would seem to be just an extension, based on newer technology, of the snooping and sniffing the toon was doing in the 90’s.

[Carry_Okie]

But something changed in ‘07. Something critical.

Not really. Remember Echelon under Clinton?