[frickin_frackin]

I’d hate to be “that guy” but back when Bush was pushing the Patriot Act, a lot of people were attacked for opposing it.

Back then I thought, what happens if Hillary (I didn’t even know who Obummer was at the time) becomes President? But a lot of so called conservatives foamed at the mouth, squashed dissent, and pushed these government powers down our throats in a fit of post-911 hysteria.

Now we are reaping the rewards of their shortsightedness.

[OneWingedShark]

Back then I thought, what happens if Hillary (I didn’t even know who Obummer was at the time) becomes President? But a lot of so called conservatives foamed at the mouth, squashed dissent, and pushed these government powers down our throats in a fit of post-911 hysteria.

This is something that I'm simply astounded more people don't ask: how can this be used against me. -- You can see the same things in the War on Drugs and how letting the 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, amendments be violated "because they're druggies and/or drug-runners" has degraded those amendments for the rest of us.