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1,021 drivers stopped at Burbank DUI checkpoint; 0 were drunk
Los Angeles Times ^ | 03 June 2013 | Alene Tchekmedyian

Posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:23 AM PDT by relictele

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To: barney10
The police department makes no money when someone is arrested. In fact, each arrest costs more to make than is ever recovered by any fine for traffic or criminal arrest.

Are you suggesting government, city, county, state, feds, etc., make no money and or do not recover the money it took to arrest someone, through imposed fines, fees and asset seizures etc?

Could I see the link to this?

What I am saying is when you calculate all of the time involved in a drunk driving arrest...

Could I see a link to this?

And BTW, you said "traffic or criminal" above...And are you referring to all arrests?

81 posted on 06/04/2013 3:11:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

“If the government lies, threatens and intimidates law abiding citizens, should we not assume government lies and breaks the laws as a matter of routine even during their checkpoint operations?”

If I really thought so, I would leave the country. How is Canada BTW?


82 posted on 06/04/2013 3:12:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: barney10
This is all really interesting barney...The last time I was in a court, I saw more lines at cash registers than a super Walmart

If I could see that link...

BTW, if government loses money on arrests fines, fees, and asset seizures, how is it possible cops, DA's and others in government are able to retire on lottery style retirement pensions in their 50s?

83 posted on 06/04/2013 3:16:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AppyPappy

Why do you consistently evade these questions?

Here it is again:

Are you suggesting the government is trustworthy, would never spy on, harm, threaten or intentionally intimidate law abiding citizens?


84 posted on 06/04/2013 3:21:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Sorry, I cannot supply a link.... all I can tell you after doing ten budgets for my former police agency; our expenses were not reimbursed by fines and asset seizures. So, I would challenge you to supply a link that asserts that all police arrests are compensated by fines, etc.


85 posted on 06/04/2013 3:24:24 PM PDT by barney10
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To: barney10

All that tells me cops cost too much.


86 posted on 06/04/2013 3:42:15 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: barney10
The police department makes no money when someone is arrested. In fact, each arrest costs more to make than is ever recovered by any fine for traffic or criminal arrest.

Are you suggesting government, city, county, state, feds, etc., make no money and or do not recover the money it took to arrest someone, through imposed fines, fees, asset seizures etc? Could I see a link?

Sorry, I cannot supply a link..

So you cannot back up your own statements?

OK.

I would challenge you to supply a link that asserts that all police arrests are compensated by fines, etc.

Your the police budget expert butya can't provide a link to substantial your own claims? BTW, I never made those assertions, those are your words.

87 posted on 06/04/2013 3:50:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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ER Your the police budget expert but ya can’t provide a link to >substantiate< your own claims? BTW, I never made those assertions, those are your words.


88 posted on 06/04/2013 3:52:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Well, I suggest you link to the budget of your local law enforcement agency and look at their budget. There will be a line item for asset seizures and fines. Then go to the total expense for the law enforcement agency and see if the seizures and fines total more than the budget item for law enforcement.

Obviously you think I am less than honest, well you know, everyone has an opinion... I stated mine and well you did too...


89 posted on 06/04/2013 4:00:54 PM PDT by barney10
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To: longtermmemmory

“now they can collect your DNA as a fishing expedition.”

They collect and record your DNA?
How can they do this?
(I’m in Canada)


90 posted on 06/04/2013 4:10:34 PM PDT by fanfan ("If Muslim kids were asked to go to church on Sunday and take Holy Communion there would be war.")
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To: dragnet2

No, I am suggesting police officers working a DUI checkpoint are not spying on us.

Focus. Think rationally.


91 posted on 06/04/2013 4:30:09 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy
Tell me pappy, are you suggesting the government is trustworthy, would never spy on, harm, threaten or intentionally intimidate law abiding citizens?

No, I am suggesting police officers working a DUI checkpoint are not spying on us.

I see, so according to you that part of government is perfectly legitimate and free of corruption? Do you feel the same for the governments war on other drugs?

92 posted on 06/04/2013 4:34:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: barney10

You’re the police budget expert but ya can’t provide a link to substantial your own claims?


93 posted on 06/04/2013 4:35:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AppyPappy
So....you're for "PAPERS PLEASE" checkpoints...within the borders of AMERICA.

Interesting........

94 posted on 06/04/2013 4:38:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: barney10
Well, I suggest you link to the budget of your local law enforcement agency and look at their budget. There will be a line item for asset seizures and fines. Then go to the total expense for the law enforcement agency and see if the seizures and fines total more than the budget item for law enforcement.

The reality is that more parts of municipal governments profit from the DUI/drug possession gravy train than just LE.

That said, cops in CA are absurdly expensive, even more so than the rest of the country. I'm not surprised whatever seizures, fines, and administrative costs collected from vice crimes don't even make a dent in the cost.

CA is a joke.

95 posted on 06/04/2013 4:54:33 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Osage Orange

So you are in favor of illegals driving drunk?

Interesting.....


96 posted on 06/04/2013 4:55:57 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: dragnet2

I think my claims are “substantial”...see ya’ at Walmart


97 posted on 06/04/2013 4:57:55 PM PDT by barney10
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To: dragnet2

“I see, so according to you that part of government is perfectly legitimate and free of corruption? “

Once again, your argument is based on teenage girl emotion rather than logic. Did I say that? No. But your “you must think I am fat” emotional irrational side has take over.
Maybe you should stomp your foot to show me how serious you are.


98 posted on 06/04/2013 5:00:18 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

You seem angry..

Have a beer...Take it easy..


99 posted on 06/04/2013 5:20:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Like you, I’ve been here 15 years.(June 1998 on my first username)

It used to be better.


100 posted on 06/04/2013 5:25:42 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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