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To: Orangedog; Taxman; neverdem
And if you think an audit is intrusive and scary now, just wait until you have to prove that you paid tax on everything in your house. And cash...forget about it. They will outlaw it within a year or two of this tax. Cash will be demonized as the tool of tax cheats, drug dealers and...wait for it...terrorists.

I had never contemplated the idea that this would lead to a ban on cash, but you are right. All transactions would be electronic and therefore totally subject to manipulation. Every good and value added would have to be tracked through the entire supply chain to make certain they weren't bartered out. Verifiable identity of transactors would be a must, with "mark of the beast" implications.

39 posted on 06/04/2013 6:51:32 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Verifiable identity of transactors would be a must, with "mark of the beast" implications.

You have no idea how many professed god fearing people refuse to see that and buy into this national sales tax whole hog.

42 posted on 06/04/2013 7:52:11 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Carry_Okie; Orangedog; Taxman
"And if you think an audit is intrusive and scary now, just wait until you have to prove that you paid tax on everything in your house. And cash...forget about it. They will outlaw it within a year or two of this tax. Cash will be demonized as the tool of tax cheats, drug dealers and...wait for it...terrorists."

I had never contemplated the idea that this would lead to a ban on cash, but you are right. All transactions would be electronic and therefore totally subject to manipulation. Every good and value added would have to be tracked through the entire supply chain to make certain they weren't bartered out. Verifiable identity of transactors would be a must, with "mark of the beast" implications.

I see all sorts of progressive, utopian assumptions getting baked in, e.g. bartering is inherently evil, bartering supports terrorists, the infrastructure for electronic transactions will always be there, electronic transactions have no flaws, etc.

An income tax subverts enterprise by its very nature. The left has moved beyond it already with estate taxes. As long as there are people, there will be black markets. Nothing in this world can be perfect.

Why not keep all taxes local? Let the states collect it. The states can forward to D.C. the feds share. Let people vote with their feet. No exit taxes. The feds can levy income taxes only during wars declared by Congress.

50 posted on 06/04/2013 9:10:04 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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