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I have not confused SS with welfare because SS is welfare. As you have clearly stated, SS is the forcible taking from person to give to another which makes it a income transfer scheme or welfare.

You can talk all you want about how people need it and we need to help those in need and how some day it will be there for me but in the end someone with a gun will force me to support you.

You take a grim view of America and seem to believe that the only way for the old and infirmed to survive is via government action.

[[I have not confused SS with welfare because SS is welfare]]

A majority of welfare recipients NEVER contribute, a majority of SS recipients have cotnributed

[[SS is the forcible taking from person to give to another which makes it a income transfer scheme or welfare.]]

So what you’re sayign is that basically, because someoen can no logner work, it shoudl be their problem and theirs alone, and you shouldn’;t have to support them because it woudl be ‘forced support’- ? By this logic, you’d also not contribute voluntarily on a regualr basis because you would feel ‘obligated by morlaity’ to keep doing so and therefore forced to support htose that can no logner support themselves-

If you’re pissed off at epopel who can no logner support themsleves receivign back soem of what htey put in to a system, and then receivign a bitm ore, whiel soem folsk who paid in die early and don’t get to actualyl ‘reap the rewards’ of their ‘forced SS patyments’ then say so- If you feel peoepl who are too old to take care of themselves shoudl just crawl in a corner soemwhere and die if they weren’t fortunate enouygh to have enoguyh extra income to squirel away, then say so- Soudns to me liek you’re pissed that you might have to work hard, pay SS and perhaps not receive it due to not reachign retirement age- What if you do reaCH it, and havent’ been wealthy enopugh to sset aside retirenemtn money, or your company goes belly up and you lose out on what you thoguht was goign to be your retirement income?

As I mentioend in my last post- I’m not really keen on livign in a society that turns it;s back o nthe elderly and the sick and leaves them to fend for themselves WITHOUT enough help to make it after they have sacrificed so much for us- if you’re fien with that- then whatever-

[[You can talk all you want about how people need it and we need to help those in need and how some day it will be there for me but in the end someone with a gun will force me to support you.]]

Wow- Really?

[[You take a grim view of America and seem to believe that the only way for the old and infirmed to survive is via government action.]]

And what’s your plan for helpign otu the milliosn upon millions of folks who worked their hearts out for very little wages, who built thsi great nation of ours, who broke their backs makign life easier for us these days, who have NO income or savings because they couldn’t earn enough, but who nonetheless paid into the SS system all thsoe years but shoudln’t receive SS accordign to you appaprently? If you have a plan to support them when they’;ve sacrificed so much for us, I’d liek to hear it-? Donations? Voluntary Good will? Churches? What abotu htose too sick to have ever worked? How are they goign to supprot themselves? To survive?