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To: fwdude

“Christie CANNOT remain a Republican and survive.”


If Christie names a Republican here and moves a little to the right in his second term as governor, he would certainly have a chance at the GOP presidential nomination: heck, he’d be far more conservative than either of the two most recent GOP presidential nominees. Just because we’d prefer someone more conservative doesn’t mean that his candidacy would be a non-starter.

But what would be a non-starter is Christie running as a Democrat for president. Christie is pro-life, and cut grants to pro-abortion groups; he’s pro-marriage, and stopped a same-sex-marriage bill from becoming law in NJ; and he’s the bete noir of public-sector unions. There’s no possible way that Chris Christie could win the Democrat presidential nomination in 2016—I mean, you’re talking about a party whose base thinks that Hillary Clinton is “too conservative.”


195 posted on 06/03/2013 9:27:09 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
...he’s pro-marriage, and stopped a same-sex-marriage bill from becoming law in NJ

That was before his love affair with Obama the Sodomite. Watch Christie change his stance on this issue, just like Schwarzenegger.

Christie is for de facto same-sex "marriage" in the form of civil unions. He has stated, in very threatening terms after he vetoed the marriage bill, that he would come down hard on anyone NOT treating same-sex couples as married.

There is no substantive difference between these legally binding, legally obligative, laws and real marriage. Civil unions used to imply some of the legal rights of married people; for the past several years it has by default meant ALL the legal rights and incidences of real marriage.

So, Christie is actually in favor of fake "marriage."

200 posted on 06/03/2013 9:39:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
By at least one standard, Christie is the most conservative New Jersey Governor in 168 years:

http://www.app.com/article/20130126/NJNEWS1002/301260106/New-N-J-laws-from-last-session-168-year-low

I realize Christie is fat and he talks funny. But he's not going to run for anything as a Democrat. If there was any question, the saga of Arlen Specter should convince any Republican with with half a brain who had an idle fantasy about switching of how the 'rats treat turncoats.

Whoever Christie appoints is just in office until the November election. That may or may not be someone who is actually going to run this November. Whoever wins the November election then needs to stand for election again in November 2014.

Other considerations are what a US Senate race does to voter turnout demographics for the gubernatorial and state legislature races in November. This is all going to be "interesting" (old Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times"). I'd love to be a fly on the wall of Christie's office today.

Former NJ Governors Tom Kean (age 78) and Christie Whitman (age 66) come to immediate mind. (Both are pretty liberal by today's Republican party standards.) Can anyone think of any other NJ Republicans with name recognition who haven't gotten their butts kicked in statewide elections? I can't.

209 posted on 06/03/2013 10:15:51 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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