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“Man must sacrifice his life” – interview with Dominique Venner
Sezession im Netz ^ | 21. Mai 2013, 23:00 | Götz Kubitschek

Posted on 06/02/2013 1:04:38 PM PDT by annalex

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Previously by Dominique Venner:

The reasons for a voluntary death
The revolt of the mothers.

1 posted on 06/02/2013 1:04:38 PM PDT by annalex
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2 posted on 06/02/2013 1:06:36 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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My combined monarchy/liberty ping


3 posted on 06/02/2013 1:06:51 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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4 posted on 06/02/2013 1:08:27 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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"Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends." --Jesus

Just sayin'.

5 posted on 06/02/2013 1:09:26 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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And every one that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands for my name' s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall possess life everlasting.

Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Read much?

6 posted on 06/02/2013 1:11:48 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Quite a bit...why do you ask?


7 posted on 06/02/2013 1:13:46 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Beat me.

All said, in this interview more clearly than before, we see a paradox in this heroic man: while identity of Europe is Christian, his search for it, and his sinful sacrifice, are manifestation of a pagan mind. Splendid mind, but pagan nonetheless.


8 posted on 06/02/2013 1:14:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Because it would not occur to me to post a blatantly anti-Christian slogan in bold letters and without attribution, on a conservative message board.

So who is the white-on-black idiot, if I may ask?


9 posted on 06/02/2013 1:16:29 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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I don’t view it as anti christian at all, but then I’m a fallen away Catholic, now card carrying agnostic with whom you will probably not agree. It was written by your favorite author, no doubt (just kidding) Ayn Rand...it was an oath that John Galt lived by in Atlas Shrugged.


10 posted on 06/02/2013 1:35:15 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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As well as others recognize themselves as sons of Shiva, Mohammed, Abraham or Buddha, it is not wrong to know ourselves as sons and daughters of Homer, Odysseus and Penelope.


11 posted on 06/02/2013 1:39:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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A few notes:

Apparently, the interview was posted in a rush as soon as the news of the suicide reached Sezession. To state “shot himself ... to protest against the introduction of gay marriage in France” is a bit inaccurate; in his suicide note (link in the trailer) Venner cites the reasons and they are not focused solely, not even primarily on the gay “marriage”.

Also, to the “the daily portion of the Bible is prescribed as mandatory in the American schools as the oath to the Stars and Stripes” we can only sigh and fondly remember America.


12 posted on 06/02/2013 1:42:02 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Very interesting article. Thanks for posting.

I think Venner was extremely wrong in killing himself in the cathedral. This allowed people to dismiss him as a nutcase. Also, suicide to advance Christianity was forbidden by the Church in the very earliest centuries AD.

He should have waited until he could really be martyred, which isn’t going to br long nue.who


13 posted on 06/02/2013 1:42:16 PM PDT by livius
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It wasn’t me but I’m sure the poster accepts your sentiments.


14 posted on 06/02/2013 1:43:25 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Ayn Rand and her fictional characters would certainly qualify as “idiot”, even though libertarianism as a whole has healthy ideas here and there.

So how come you are an agnostic? That is a shame. No rational man should be.


15 posted on 06/02/2013 1:44:47 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: gorush

That’s really powerful.


16 posted on 06/02/2013 1:45:35 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: livius

Thank you.

I am not sure he was even “advancing Christianity” so much as awakening France, which he viewed as heir of Homer more than of St. Dennis. And that is his cardinal mistake.

However, who is not against us is with us, and this keen student of history served Christian conservatism by giving his life for the Christian and the French civilization, the favorite child of our Mother Church. May Christ look kindly on his despair.


17 posted on 06/02/2013 1:50:11 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Sigh and remember sumss it up. But at the same time, while I grew up mostly in New York City, I had attended school briefly in a Bible Belt state. They had state-sponsored courses where they told us how awful Catholics were because they “Didn’t believe the Bible.” Jews in NYC treated us better than Protestants did.

So I don’t think we have to go back to that!


18 posted on 06/02/2013 1:52:58 PM PDT by livius
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I've been wrong about a lot of things over the course of my long life. That has taught me how fallible I am in spite of what I know to be an honest curiosity about this world and my place in it. I therefore endeavor to not have strong opinions on unprovable premises.

Or I could repeat my old joke: I learned the Latin necessary to be an altar boy and then, three years later...after more than two thousand years, they changed the Mass to English.

19 posted on 06/02/2013 1:54:39 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Back to the oath...I read it as “I will enslave no man and will allow no man to enslave me” and don’t view that as anti christian.


20 posted on 06/02/2013 1:57:36 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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