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To: SoConPubbie
Look at the polls taken earlier in the campaign. So far as I can tell, Romney consistently polled better against Obama than any of the other candidates.

But how do you support your contention with empirical evidence? Where was that great bloc of conservative voters who didn't vote for Romney but who would vote for Bachmann or Perry or Cain or Gingrich or Santorum?

Would they really outweigh people who couldn't take Newt's divorces and abrasiveness, or Perry's poor debate performance, or Cain's sexual scandals, or Santorum's gaffes?

I can understand disaffected voters in places being put off by Romney's rich guy image, but they're balanced out by voters who would run from Gingrich or Santorum or Bachmann.

I don't see any of the actual existing candidates for the nomination (as opposed to some ideal candidate that doesn't exist in reality) doing any better against Obama than Romney did.

I wish one of the others had been nominated, because then it would disprove theories like yours which people cling to without much evidence.

It's not Ronald Reagan's America out there anymore, though I wish it was. There isn't some vast reserve of conservative Democrats out there waiting to flock to a conservative Republican. And a lot of that sold Republican support of previous years has drifted away.

143 posted on 06/01/2013 1:51:01 PM PDT by x
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To: x
I don't see any of the actual existing candidates for the nomination (as opposed to some ideal candidate that doesn't exist in reality) doing any better against Obama than Romney did.

Stated through the prism of your moderation.
145 posted on 06/01/2013 2:01:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: x
Look at the polls taken earlier in the campaign. So far as I can tell, Romney consistently polled better against Obama than any of the other candidates.

Polls of likely voters, what about the 93 million voters that did not vote?

What about the constant lies that Romney, and his surrogates, spread about the other candidates?

What about the open primaries?

What about the fact that all of the polling groups were wrong on the final numbers?

What about the fact that most of the polling organizations are little better than shapers of opinion vs. taking the pulse of voters at any given moment?

As far as the faults and flaws that you pointed out about the ACTUAL conservatives running in the race, how come the press, including our conservative press, did not go after the hypocrisy of Romney with his Progressive Liberal views, positions, and actions right up until the time he started running for President?

Why did not the press go after Romney for his support of Socialized Medicine, AKA, RomneyCare with it's Individual Mandate, stilling money from producers to give it to those who did not earn it in the form of Health Insurance, it's inclusion of Abortion, etc.?

Why did not the press go after Romney for lying about being a "Severe Conservative" and always being Pro-Life at CPAC, and then coming out AFTER the Primaries in support of Gays in the Military, Gay Adoption, Gays in the Boy Scouts, and support of Abortion in the cases of Incest, Rape, Life, and HEALTH of the mother?

All of your talking points are GOP-E based, none of them are from the basis of someone who really believes in conservatism from a principled perspective.
148 posted on 06/01/2013 2:09:52 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: x
It's not Ronald Reagan's America out there anymore, though I wish it was. There isn't some vast reserve of conservative Democrats out there waiting to flock to a conservative Republican. And a lot of that sold Republican support of previous years has drifted away.

Really???

Do you really believe, that Reagan, with his foundational conservative principles, his ability to communicate them in a cheerful, hopeful manner to everyone, his fearlessness in attacking the left, and the RINOs in his own party wouldn't have swept the floor with Obama and his failed socialistic policies?

Give me a break, your moderation, your RINOness is showing again.

All you have to support your contention is the failed attempt by a Progressive Liberal (Romney) pretending to be a Republican and refusing to fight back against Obama and his socialism and supporting both Abortion and the Gay Agenda AND Polling by deceptive, left-wing organizations who are known for trying to shape opinion vs. actually taking an objective pulse of the electorate at a given point in time.

There is no real evidence to support you in your contention, only the opinions of the GOP-e, Karl Rove, the Democrats, and pretend, left-wing polling organizations, all of which have one thing in common, the desire to tamp down the Tea-Party and all Social conservatives.

Why are you aligning yourself with these traitors?
177 posted on 06/01/2013 8:35:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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