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If (Navy SEAL) Chris Kyle Had Been a Muslim, We'd Call him an Extremist
New Republic ^ | May 29, 2013 | Isaac Chotiner

Posted on 05/30/2013 10:14:04 AM PDT by Zakeet

Imagine the following scenario: a young Muslim from the Islamic world joins his country’s armed forces to fight an aggressive war against an overwhelmingly Christian nation. He gains accolades for his work as a sniper, executing his job with ruthless efficiency and little remorse. He admits to viewing the war he is fighting through the prism of religion. He gets a tattoo on his arm declaring that he embraces the concept of holy war. When parliamentarians in his own country question the conduct or course of the war, he states, “How would they know? They’ve never even been in a combat situation.” After shooting someone whose widow claims he was holding a Bible rather than a gun, he answers, “I don’t shoot people with Bibles. I’d like to, but I don’t.”

How would this person be described when his story was recounted in the western press? That’s easy: He’d be described as an Islamic fundamentalist—aggressive, dangerous, and intent on evil.

Now let’s also imagine that this man was widely embraced back home: That he became the author of a bestselling book, and served as a symbol of strength used by politicians to pursue their own ends. How would the culture that lauded this man be described? Well, that too is easy. It would be said that this man’s Muslim country was full of fanatics, and, moreover, that fanaticism more broadly was celebrated—or at least not condemned—by large segments of the population.

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The societal failing is deeper than veteran’s care. Here was a man who, as Schmidle puts it, “was deeply religious and saw the Iraq War through that prism.” Think about what that could be possibly mean, and how we would view someone from another culture who had similar sentiments.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; islam; liberalbigot; lifeamongthekufir; navy; specialforces; waronreligion; waronterror
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To: Zakeet
The New Republic appears to have hired a fresh batch of psychotics. It's pretty much the same old line, though - equate a soldier with a terrorist because they both kill people, and don't dig any deeper because the differences that turn up tend to threaten the moral outrage posturing. We've heard this sorry crap from the Left since Vietnam.

I probably shouldn't bother to expand on the difference between a dedicated, trained sniper bound to a strict set of rules of engagement and a terrorist out to kill anyone at all. Shouldn't have to.

21 posted on 05/30/2013 10:28:59 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Zakeet

I will admit that the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter often depends on what side you fall on. The fact that so many on the Left view America’s own soldiers as terrorists shows what side they fall on.


22 posted on 05/30/2013 10:29:19 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Zakeet

Not sure I’ve ever read a piece with more ridiculously twisted logic than that...


23 posted on 05/30/2013 10:30:27 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Zakeet

If ISaac Chotiner Had Been a Steaming Pile of Dog Sh*t, We’d Call him an Isaac Chotiner,


24 posted on 05/30/2013 10:31:10 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: skeeter

Liberalism is a mental disorder.


25 posted on 05/30/2013 10:31:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Zakeet

Except Chris wasn’t a Muslim and didn’t participate in Jihad. So the whole article is pointless.


26 posted on 05/30/2013 10:32:24 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Hardraade
"Think about what that could be possibly mean, and how we would view someone from another culture who had similar sentiments."

Sounds like a european. The US doesn’t have “parliamentarians”.

He can't be a European. Chotiner is a Jewish name. The Europeans—like the Moslems he defends—don't allow Jews to be prominent. They have to come to America to do that. He says "parliamentarians" in a generic sense, encompassing members of European-style parliaments and our own Congressmen and Senators.

He's not European. He's just pretentious.

27 posted on 05/30/2013 10:32:37 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: demshateGod

A man who cannot reason seeks to impart wisdom. Better to be thought a fool...


28 posted on 05/30/2013 10:32:47 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: junta
How do the writers of this stench type out the word “Republic” without spontaneously combusting?
29 posted on 05/30/2013 10:33:10 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: Zakeet

There is a big difference between an “overwhelmingly Christian nation” and a THEOCRATICALLY RULED nation.

Why are liberals so pro-Islamic rule? They DO realize that what they refer to as “muslim lands” were home to other faiths before Islamic warlords crushed the locals, don’t they?


30 posted on 05/30/2013 10:33:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Zakeet

If Chris Kyle had been a muslim, we’d have called him an extremist...

If cops were bank robbers we’d call them bank robbers.

If a writer attacks Christians and patriots considers them to be dangerous I’d say he’s a moral imbecile or else he’s playing for the other team. Or both.


31 posted on 05/30/2013 10:33:58 AM PDT by marron
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To: Zakeet

Short version of the story:

Kyle is a jingoistic, anti-Muslim yahoo who is like the Taliban. Routh is a victim of lack of funding for VA medical services. Let’s spend more money on medical services.


32 posted on 05/30/2013 10:35:17 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Zakeet

Overthrowing an aloof, tyrannical, oppressive government was once called “Patriotic” in America...


33 posted on 05/30/2013 10:36:24 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Zakeet

This piece of crap PERFECTLY exemplifies why liberals are not fit to walk the same earth as normal people.


34 posted on 05/30/2013 10:36:44 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: Zakeet

Isaac Chotiner, you sir, or an absolute idiot, a moron, and an unmitigated ass.

Your attempt at moral equivalence is deragned and misplaced.

Chris Kyler was a solider in the US Military, He trained hard and excelled at what he did. He saved countelss other US solider’s lifes, and he ended the lifes of many terrorists who would think nothing of killing and blowing up civilian men, women and children...even those of his own faith...to advance his Jihad.

Chris Kyler did not believe in Jihad. Chris Kyler did not believe in tyranny. Chris Kyler did not believe in converting people to his religion at the point of a gun, or in forcing them to either submit to his religion or be a slave or die.

Chris Kyler fought a war against such thing...and he was very good at it. And thank God for that.

That’s all this is.

Your atttempts to try and equate him to all of those other things are the trappings of a meaningless intellectual pursuit to somehow try and justify your own feelings against the very people who would protect you.

And, that, is what is sick.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

ISLAMIC JIHAD & SHARIA LAW MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE EARTH
http://www.jeffhead.com/eradicate.htm


35 posted on 05/30/2013 10:40:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: RightGeek
If the author, Isaac Chotiner, had balls we’d still call him a wimp.

and do it face to face in the pudgel stick pit.

36 posted on 05/30/2013 10:40:59 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Zakeet

Liberals, such as the author, should be used for the harvesting of major organs and nothing else.....Libs have no other value.


37 posted on 05/30/2013 10:44:31 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Zakeet
We seem to be missing the slight distinction between:

(1) A soldier killing other armed fighters and

(2) A coward randomly attacking defenseless women and children.

38 posted on 05/30/2013 10:44:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: absolootezer0

“used toilet paper (which is about all this article is good for).”

Nope, I wouldn’t soil my ***.


39 posted on 05/30/2013 10:45:26 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Zakeet

Navy SEAL Chris Kyle did not depend on al-Qaeda for his daily bread. The nameless punk who hacked off Drummer Lee Rigsby’s head was receiving welfare payments from the British Government.


40 posted on 05/30/2013 10:45:52 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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