We've got enough problems at home without charging into yet another foreign bloodbath [UK and Syria]

Daily Mail UK ^ | May 27, 2013 | Max Hastings

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What infuses British governments with a mania for thrusting their sticky hands into other people’s messes that are absolutely no responsibility of ours? Foreign Secretary William Hague spent the Bank Holiday at an EU meeting in Brussels, striving to persuade his European colleagues not to renew their arms embargo against Syria, and instead ship weapons to the anti-Assad rebels.

Hague, like the Prime Minister, is panting to do a good deed in a wicked world. Enthusiastically backed by the Old Etonian boy scout troop that passes for Downing Street policy advisers, they are eager to follow their 2011 ‘success’ in Libya by helping to topple the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

One of the most senior of David Cameron’s staffers speaks messianically of a ‘moral imperative’ to tilt the balance in Syria. The Prime Minister himself spent much of his recent visit to Washington urging President Barack Obama to overcome his gut reluctance to intervene. Why, why, why?

It seems extraordinary that a British national leader striving to preserve his premiership from the threat of abject failure, amid grave difficulties with the economy and Europe, should be eager to involve Britain in a huge gamble abroad.

… Assad is a long-standing client of the Russians and provides them with a strategically important Mediterranean naval base. But rebel forces are dominated by Islamists.

They are divided among themselves into scores of factions and are widely acknowledged to be responsible for atrocities almost as loathsome as those being committed by government forces.

[Paladin2]

Let McCain fly the missions.

[ZULU]

I see the filthy hands and petrodollars of the Saudi swine behind this again.

They want to get another force of innocent Dhimmis involved to do their dirty work for them so they can rest secure in their palaces, sip their wine, enjoy heur foreign women, live like kings and keep their maniac subjects under control while the poil dollars roll in.

[Da Coyote]

“Let McCain fly the missions.”

He’ll just crash...again.

He’s got a PhD in crashing planes.

And his senatorial abilities are even worse.

As in “nonexistant”.

McCain is light slime (as opposed to his butt buddy Obamadork, who is pure slime).

[Vigilanteman]

I think Barky would really like to intervene but he's genuinely confused about whether backing his Al Qaida sponsored allies would enrage his Russian backed allies.

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Maybe why they were trying to do it covertly, if the reports of Benghazi being related to arms transfer for rebels is valid.

[PGR88]

The problem is we don’t even know who the enemy is

[The Sons of Liberty]

We've got enough problems at home without charging into yet another foreign bloodbath [UK and Syria]

If the Brits want to fight muzzies, start with the streets of Londonstan.

[Netz]

There is a lot of resistance on the part of the British electorate to NOT get involved in other people's affairs and this is a fair gig but there are times, in the history of a nation or free people, where there is a moral imperative to halt a slaughter in another land if it is at all possible to intervene to stop the bloodshed. Syria might NOT be this test case. This is the lesson of WWII which seems to have been long forgotten. True all Western nations need to deal with domestic issues BUT...and this is a big but, Britain and the USA cannot sit idly by while the forces of Evil (Russia, China, N. Korea, Hizbollah and Iran) all strengthen their political and military power in the world today. These rogue nations are once again judging the will of the West, just as Hitler did in 1939. If this mass killing is not halted, the streets of England and the States will be awash with the blood of Arabic/Islamic Jihad. Then, the chickens will come home to roost. Bottom line: outrageous and murderous peoples MUST be stopped early on or the dark shadow of genocide will be at your own shores.

[Netz]

There is a lot of resistance on the part of the British electorate to NOT get involved in other people's affairs and this is a fair gig but there are times, in the history of a nation or free people, where there is a moral imperative to halt a slaughter in another land if it is at all possible to intervene to stop the bloodshed. Syria might NOT be this test case. This is the lesson of WWII which seems to have been long forgotten. True all Western nations need to deal with domestic issues BUT...and this is a big but, Britain and the USA cannot sit idly by while the forces of Evil (Russia, China, N. Korea, Hizbollah and Iran) all strengthen their political and military power in the world today. These rogue nations are once again judging the will of the West, just as Hitler did in 1939. If this mass killing is not halted, the streets of England and the States will be awash with the blood of Arabic/Islamic Jihad. Then, the chickens will come home to roost. Bottom line: outrageous and murderous peoples MUST be stopped early on or the dark shadow of genocide will be at your own shores.

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… War. The perfect distraction from the domestic troubles!

[Amberdawn]

You are exactly right. F the Saudi’s and their “onward Christian soldiers BS”. If they love Wahabbism so much, let them fight and die for it.

[Amberdawn]

Iran is a problem, but it can be dealt with singly. Assad is a problem, but the sunni’s are far more numerous and are doing all the funding of the major terrorist groups out there right now.

[txnativegop]

In that case, kill them all and let God sort them out.

No pun intended. not sarcasm either.

[Fitzy_888]

QUOTE: “The Prime Minister himself spent much of his recent visit to Washington urging President Barack Obama to overcome his gut reluctance to intervene. Why, why, why?”

Obama has a gut reluctance to assist the Muslim Brotherhood? Now that’s news. /sarc

[edcoil]

And in the end, the side we would help would simply end up being the new, more expensive enemy.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Here’s a thought. Offer a one way ticket for Muslims in the UK to go to Syria “to help create a new Syrian government.”

This works in several ways. First of all, it is a great alternative to welfare. Second, Britain can empty out its prisons. Third, few of the UK Muslims really understand Islam, and will not relate at all well to the radical Muslims, who will want them to abandon their heathen ways.

Fourth, sheer numbers will help keep the brawl going with Assad and further cripple him. And fifth, it will be one in the eye to Russia, that keeps supplying Assad with missiles to threaten Israel.

What’s not to like?

[Netz]

The West, and especially the USA always kick the can down the road hoping to appease tyrants when the very act of kicking the can demonstrates to those very tyrants that the West does not have the WILL to do deal with a growing menace. This is how Democracies typically behave, slow to anger but a major problem like Iran, as you say, must be dealt with in some sort of alliance.

Iran is working based on the North Joeann model, that is, talk a lot, meet with various representatives and finish the damn bomb.

Clinton's policy vis N. Korea utterly failed sending a clear signal to Iran to plot the same course, which is what they are doing. Under the weak leadership of Obama, Iran and all of the West's enemies are emboldened and are speeding up their bomb making.

At some point, Iran will announce that it has the bomb and will detonate one to prove it. At that point, the world doomsday clock will strike 1 minute to midnight and all that because the West preferred to kick that proverbial can down the road, one kick too many...