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Monsanto, Bayer Seek Answers to Bee Losses
nbcnews.com ^ | May 20, 2013 | Carey Gillam

Posted on 05/28/2013 7:41:22 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: Mr. Lucky

I will have to spread your news to my “clueless” local farmers.


41 posted on 05/28/2013 11:06:12 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: FatherofFive
The Government and Monsanto is the same thing.

You really believe that?

42 posted on 05/28/2013 11:07:58 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: sarasota

You’re alleging criminal activity with no evidence, and based on a total misunderstanding of the issue. That’s pretty brazen, don’t you think?


43 posted on 05/28/2013 11:15:59 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: okie01
You really believe that?

Yes. The FDA is more concerned about Monsanto profits than the health of Americans.GM foods may be safe, but there are no longitudional studies to show that is reality. The government is putting mercury into every house with those crazy lightbulbs. That is a disaster in the making. Roundup is an environmental timebomb. The government allows mercury in vaccines.

And so it goes.

44 posted on 05/28/2013 11:23:08 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Mase

Time will tell.


45 posted on 05/28/2013 11:40:05 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

I’m guessing that you don’t really know all that many farmers. No one who plants corn is unaware that hybrid seeds don’t reproduce true.


46 posted on 05/28/2013 11:50:20 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BlueDragon

I know a man who treats a number of hives for a number of people and groups. He dusts the bees with garlic powder mixed with powdered sugar. He said the dust if fine enough that they really clean themselves and get rid of the mites in the process. He doesn’t like to use chemicals in the hives and said this works very well.

Now, that said, he said this year we lost 2 hives since the winter. He doesn’t know what caused it yet. He said it wasn’t because he didn’t feed them when we got cold again. He also said this is looking to be a very scant year for honey, because it is a year when there aren’t a lot of blooms happening.


47 posted on 05/28/2013 11:54:10 AM PDT by Grammy (He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans. Job 5:12)
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To: FatherofFive
The government allows mercury in vaccines.

And fluoride in toothpastes!

Not to mention chloride in table salt!

Oh, the Hugh Manatee!!!!

48 posted on 05/28/2013 12:36:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: FatherofFive

You’re right and I stand with you.


49 posted on 05/28/2013 1:43:17 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: sarasota

What if the farmers don’t use Monsanto seeds? I know there have been issues with cross pollination but if a farmer plants totally different corn, such as an heirloom variety is it still an issue?


50 posted on 05/28/2013 2:20:04 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: okie01
And fluoride in toothpastes!

This is not about di-hydrogen momoxide in your coffee.

Flouride should be avoided. mercury should be avoided. GMO products have not been proven safe. Roundup is dangerous. (I like DDT to control mosquitos)

Do some homework.

51 posted on 05/28/2013 3:14:48 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Parmy
That is term that the keepers used for the treatments that they applied.

Ok...but the term is imprecise, suggesting something different then what actually goes on.

52 posted on 05/28/2013 3:50:47 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Grammy
I've never used powdered sugar myself, but a lot of amateur beekeepers do. Most report good results...but not all do mite counts before and after. Hardly anyone does (comparatively). I would try sugar if I had a few colonies. Have none presently, and none of my own for some years now...

The commercial guys don't use powdered sugar dusting that I know of. None of any size, anyway. First---I think they may not fully believe in it. The rest; too labor intensive and time consuming, highly disruptive to the colonies (go piss off a hundred colonies or so, all located at the same bee yard -- then tell me how much fun that is!) and one might need screened bottom boards, whereas the pollinators have their equipment on custom, migratory bee pallets.

I've never heard of the garlic additive...but have applied a hops-based treatment. Those colonies left my sight, so I don't know if it worked or not, and I don't think the owner of those was doing mite drop counts either (which again would need either screened bottom boards or a screened over sticky pad (screened so the bees don't get stuck to it--which can be bought at some bee supply houses) that can be slid in under the central region of the colony.

He said it wasn’t because he didn’t feed them when we got cold again.

It can difficult to determine just what causes a dwindling die off. On the other hand, plain and simple starve-out leaves them dead, head in to the cells, with the comb all around picked clean. Easy sign to read...but not what one wants to see, and is preventable for the most part.

. He also said this is looking to be a very scant year for honey, because it is a year when there aren’t a lot of blooms happening.

This is one of those things referred to when they say "all beekeeping is local".

53 posted on 05/28/2013 4:16:09 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: FatherofFive
Flouride should be avoided. mercury should be avoided. GMO products have not been proven safe. Roundup is dangerous.

I worked on Crest in the sixties. I've seen what fluoridated toothpastes have done to virtually eliminate childhood caries.

As children, we played with mercury. Yeah, it's toxic. But we knew better than to ingest it.

I've been a farmer. I understand how hybrid seeds and genetic modifications have increased yields, reduced pesticide and fertilizer costs, while improving nutrition -- worldwide.

And I've used Roundup by the truckload. It works great -- without the toxicity problems associated with most herbicides.

You live your life. I'll live mine.

54 posted on 05/28/2013 5:13:03 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: okie01
You live your life. I'll live mine.

But you are poisoning mine by living yours.

Roundup's active ingredient, glyphosate, is actually devastating crops and human and animal health around the world, even when the exposure is restricted to residues leftover in the soil.

There are very good reasons for not putting fluoride in the water supplies. It is a drug. If you wanted some to ingest, you'd have to get a prescription. And there are good reasons for why we don't purposely add any other drugs to our water.

And yes, mercury is toxic.

55 posted on 05/28/2013 6:56:36 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
But you are poisoning mine by living yours.

I'm not your neighbor.

Nor would I want to be.

And I hereby promise not to share my Roundup, my fluoride toothpaste and my mercury with you.

56 posted on 05/28/2013 7:06:15 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: Parmy

Thanks for that post.

I have been wondering if there is any fire behind the smoke.

Not to say I won’t keep watching the story but am glad for your insight.


57 posted on 05/28/2013 7:17:35 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: okie01
And I hereby promise not to share my Roundup, my fluoride toothpaste and my mercury with you.

Well, I'm in Tulsa so I'm not sure if we're not neighbors, okie. But you simply can't keep your poisons on your own property, and that's the problem. Nice if you could.

58 posted on 05/28/2013 7:24:58 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
But you simply can't keep your poisons on your own property, and that's the problem.

Well, I guess we'll both just have to live with it.

Like Global Warming...

59 posted on 05/28/2013 8:27:19 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: okie01
Like Global Warming...

Yes, if the earth is warming we need to deal with it. But there is nothing Man can do to cause it or stop it

We can stop using poisons

60 posted on 05/28/2013 8:46:53 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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