Posted on 05/24/2013 6:32:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
As counterintuitive as it may sound for an organization with such a wholesome and all-American reputation, it seems that secrecy and heavy-handed tactics are the order of the day at the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) meeting that will decide whether the BSA will change its century-old policy to expand its membership to include open and avowed homosexuals.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Now the Gay Scouts will be ready if they want to join the US military...later when older
You guys who were kids in the 1950s are so lucky.
That was an America I will never know.
I caught a fleeting glimpse of it in the 1970s, I turned to look and it was gone.
And you can rest assured that the same thing happens in Mormon troops. The main difference is that the homosexual Mormon scoutmasters are all in the closet and are married and therefore not evident.
You have lost the Scouts, they now belong to the fags. The national organization will destroy any troop not complying. It is the same old crap with GSA, “yes the national organization is in alliance with planned parenthood, but the girls are your neighbors and need support.” No more support, this is an easy boycott just do not by the popcorn and cookies. I have a friend who is a scout leader he is torn apart by this. He does to know if he will continue as the Boy Scouts can no longer claim a moral high ground.
They’re like muslims. Infiltrate organizations/political offices and change the culture. It will only get worse. Too bad Christians don’t do that.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation that makes California the first state to ban a controversial form of psychotherapy that’s aimed at making gay teenagers straight.
Effective Jan. 1, mental health practitioners are prohibited from performing sexual orientation change efforts — known as reparative or conversion therapy — for anyone under 18.
The therapies “have no basis in science or medicine and they will now be relegated to the dustbin of quackery,” Brown said in a statement.
Mainstream associations representing psychiatrists and psychologists have dismissed reparative therapy in recent decades. A number of mental health associations in California — including the state’s Board of Behavorial Sciences, the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists and the California Psychological Association — supported the legislation.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57523211/california-bans-gay-cure-therapy/
So, you shrink their funding and some wealthy homosexuals come in and make up for it. Then who wins? Stop losing. It starts with you.
Jay Carney is that you? Or are you David Axelrod?
I mean stop quitting. You make me sick. Since when have conservatives been whiny, losing quitters?
Every openly homosexual Scout is an opporunity to prove the lie that nobody can change. Why not take the opportunity and run with it. I mean are we Christians or mice?
You are the loser by accepting this.
We’re not quitters. The BSA are the quitters. By caving to the forces of deviancy. Cowards. The Scouts are yellow-bellied cowards. A disgrace to everything they once stood for. A disgrace to God and country. As an organization, it deserves nothing less than death. Anyone donning the Scout uniform from this point onward only gets abject contempt from me. Degenerate scumbags.
Too bad we don’t have the ID and compamies that the destroyers work for. Because then we could boycot the daylights out of them.
Buh bye, BSA.
Does anyone know the details of the vote?
5/23/2013 – BSA membership resolution passes with more than 60 percent of vote
http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/
After an extensive discussion within the organization, the Boy Scouts of America’s approximately 1,400 volunteer voting members chose to adopt the membership policy resolution and remove the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone. The final vote breakdown was 61.44 % for the proposal, and 38.56 % against. The change takes effect Jan. 1, 2014. Voting results were tabulated and certified by TrueBallot, an independent, third-party voting firm.
It was a straight-up ballot, i.e., YES or NO. No amendments were allowed on the floor.
The total number of voting delegates was ~1,400 taken from ~294 local councils across the country. Each council had a minimum of 3 votes. Larger councils, defined by the number of youth members, were allocated more voting delegates.
Not really.
The LDS Church took a beating, from the inside and outside, for aggressively supporting Proposition 8 in CA during 2008. Since then, the Church has moved on to other battles in the cultural wars rather than to continue to take on the homosexual-rights activists for several reasons.
1. Church leadership felt like it was left holding the financial bag after other evangelical denominations failed to come through with promised aid in the fight against Proposition 8. Top church officials were heavily involved in the creation of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), the primary player over the last decade in the fight to outlaw gay unions.
2. Church leadership feared that continued support of anti-homosexualsexual marriage measures would continue to generate negative publicity which in turn would limit the ability of its farflung missionaries to engage potential converts.
3. The Church wanted to be more welcoming to its members who are afflicted with same-sex attraction.
4. Mitt Romney, perhaps the highest profile Mormon in the U.S. today, had advocated membership for all homosexuals in the BSA since 1994. The chuch did not want to harm Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential campaign.
5. Another high-profile Morman, Jon Huntsman Jr., former governor (R-UT) and former ambassador to Red China under POTUS #44 BHO, announced his support of homosexual marriage in FEB 2013. He also signed on the amicus brief that opposed the DoMA which is currently before the SCOTUS.
6. BSA National President Wayne Perry is a lifelong Mormon. He convinced the Mormon leadership to change its adversarial position against homosexuality in Scouting, which went back to the 2000 SCOTUS case, BSA v Dale.
I read 2 articles in the weeks running up to the election that claimed there were reports of many non-voting delegates planning on showing up to crash the gate and vote in the election. Just didn't pass the smell test. My impression is that access to the meeting was rigidly controlled. According to BSA National, the votes were tabulated and certified by TrueBallot, an independent, third-party voting firm. I am still searching for accounts of how it went down. At this point, I am not suspicious of a rigged vote, but ...
This could also be a “natural change”, such as happened in the 1970s, when the BSA *stupidly* decided to integrate inner city youths,...
Occam's Razor would agree with you on this 1. I know everyone on FR hates polling, but there have just been so many out the past year which all point in the same direction - a general loosening of morals and tolerance/acceptance of what used to be known as bad behavior. It is incredible that this collection of successful business people could be led over the cliff like a herd of lemmings.
As a christian and a deacon in my church, this policy change has created an untenable position for me. Since I am being forced to choose between my faith and participating in an organization that no longer reflects my values and no longer maintains it’s stated principles, I am left with no choice but to resign my position within the Boy Scouts and disassociate myself.
Effective Immediately, I will no longer support the Boy Scouts of America with either my volunteer hours or with my funds. I resign from both my position as Assistant Scout Master and Committee Member. The next scout meeting that I attend will be to publicly and before the troop resign and take off my scouting shirt.
Do you know which two?
Take your pick from the "lost" 13 ...
MA, CT, IA, ME, VT, NH, W-DC, NY, WA, MD, RI, DE, MN
The "suits" at BSA National did their cyphering and projected they would lose ~11% of the 2012 membership of 2.6 million. Apparently that was acceptable collateral damage. Sadly, I suspect their arithmetic may be close to reality. I would prefer a massive vote of the feet ... but I don't see it in this culture today.
While I admire positive thinking, a healthy dose of reality is needed here. One of the big talking points all of the big guns on the conservative side of this issue said this decision will violate the 2000 SCOTUS BSA v Dale case and open BSA up to further "lawfare" by the homosexualists. The 2nd talking point was that homosexualists will press forward with lawfare against the new membership rule which forbids open homosexual adults.
I’ll have to admit, after gay ‘activists’ firebombed a bunch of their church/temples buildings, they may have decided giving in was safer than being right.
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