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To: A'elian' nation
Aw heck, Communism Fascism - What difference does it make? None actually. Jonah Goldberg in his book Liberal Fascism makes the point that these are not opposite ends of political or ideological spectrums. Rather more like the point where the ends of two strings meet when enjoined in a circle.

The trouble is, Goldberg is a mental midget who doesn't know his history.

The Communists seized the property of and often executed industrialists, aristocrats, and landowners. The Nazis restored property that aristocrats lost under the Weimar Republic, and not only did (non-Jewish) industrialists keep their factories and money, many like Porsche and Krupp got very wealthy under Nazi patronage, as did many prominent German banking families. The same was true in Fascist Italy. That's why there was a great deal of sympathy for Nazis and Fascists among much of Britain's nobility and among many prominent industrialists in both the UK and the US.

In Latin America and Spain, the Soviets backed peasant uprisings, the Fascists and Nazis backed the old landowner patron families and the military juntas.

Fascists and National Socialists were intensely nationalistic, communists were internationalists who (at least in theory) opposed racialism and ethnocentrism.

Other than that, no, I guess there was really no difference at all!

41 posted on 05/24/2013 8:31:48 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: ek_hornbeck

Yeah there isn’t a whole lot of difference. The little guy still gets screwed no matter if the state seizes property and kills millions or controls it to its liking as we are seeing in this country.

The mobs still hung Mussolini despite making the trains run on time and still fled ‘paradise’ when the walls came down.

Socialists and communists just don’t understand economic markets. I will grant you the nationalistic/international movement difference, and Goldberg makes that distinction as well.


49 posted on 05/24/2013 10:58:46 AM PDT by A'elian' nation
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To: ek_hornbeck

“Goldberg is a mental midget who doesn’t know his history.”

Have you seen the bibliography in his book Liberal Fascism?
I’ve rarely seen such an extensive bibliography. He didn’t make it up.

As for communists killing millions, so have the Fascist Progressive elites with their pogroms of racism, eugenics, and abortion.


50 posted on 05/24/2013 11:13:34 AM PDT by A'elian' nation
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To: ek_hornbeck
I think the point isn't so much that there were no differences. It's that fascism and communism weren't opposites, though they fought each other in the streets quite viciously. There was some common ground and common roots.

And that's true. Go back to Napoleon, say. Right or left? Peron? Mussolini himself, who started out as a socialist? Stalin in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945? Of course over time on the internet ideas and distinctions get blurred and become cruder, but there's a kernel of truth in what Goldberg wrote.

64 posted on 05/24/2013 2:08:11 PM PDT by x
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