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Brave mother and daughter stood alongside Cub Scout leader against Islamic fanatics
Daily Mail ^ | 24th May 2013 | Vanessa Allen

Posted on 05/24/2013 3:22:43 AM PDT by the scotsman

'A mother and daughter were the 'Angels of Woolwich' who bravely risked their own lives to comfort the soldier left dying in the street.

Gemini Donnelly-Martin, 20, and her mother Amanda, stepped forward and asked the attackers if they could be by Drummer Lee Rigby's side.

Their refusal to be cowed by the terrorists won praise from all quarters, including Downing Street.

Although other bystanders watched in horror and police waited helplessly for armed officers to arrive, Gemini modestly insisted her and her mother were not heroes and had done what anyone else would do.

She told the Daily Mirror: 'We did what anyone would do. We just wanted to take care of the man. It wasn't brave. Anyone would have done it. It had to be done. They (the killers) said women could pass.'

'The only thing people need to worry about is that poor man's mum. We are grateful, though, for what people are saying about us.'

When it became apparent Drummer Lee Rigby was beyond their help, they shielded his body from further desecration by his savage attackers.

Amanda, 44, insisted she be allowed to pray for the dead man even when confronted by one of the killer. Kneeling at his side, she cradled him gently, seemingly unfazed by his horrific wounds.

Yesterday Gemini was back searching for work at a local job fair while her mother did not want to talk about what happened.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: geminidonnellymartin; leerigby; woolwich
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To: the scotsman
And being gun saturated, either as citizens or police, like the US, is not the British way nor the way forward for the UK.

Does "the British way" include the gradual surrender of the country to the muslim invaders, or does it only appear that way?

21 posted on 05/24/2013 4:24:16 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: usconservative

UK murder rate: 1.2
US murder rate: 4.8

UK gun murders per year: 900
US gun murders per year: 15000


22 posted on 05/24/2013 4:26:43 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: usconservative

The level of serious violence in the UK has not reached anywhere near the level that all UK police need to be armed.

If you actually ever came here, you’d see the UK is still a safe country to live in. Yes, people gets beaten, murdered, raped. BUT the UK is a good country and a safe country to live in. Far safer frankly than the US.

Does America being armed to the teeth make America safer?. No.

BTW, this ‘socialist suckup’ is a gun owning, pro-gun, anti-gun law conservative and spent seven years in the armed forces. This ‘socialist’ also supports more armed police units and more firearms training for UK police, even all police being trained in firearm use. I simply do not support all UK police being armed.

Honestly, I really dont care what you think of the UK. Clean up your own violent pigsty first and then criticise.
Being lectured on violence by Americans is like being lectured on paedophilia by Roman Polanski.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 4:34:02 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: flaglady47
“police waited helplessly for armed officers to arrive”

Well if they can't carry firearms how about swords?

24 posted on 05/24/2013 4:38:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: the scotsman

What does that have to do with arming your police force?


25 posted on 05/24/2013 4:40:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: the scotsman

one of the best things about this site is when conservatives share experience and knowledge it makes us all smarter/better people. One of the worst things about this site is when people decide they know other people’s experiences better than the people with boots actually on the ground, living the stuff. You’ve been hassled by that type a lot lately; sorry to see it. But thanks for sharing your insight.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 4:40:33 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Bobalu

I’ve had that Churchill quote here on my page for years along with this one:

“To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Muhammad and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have kept on developing”

— General George S. Patton: The War as I Knew it, 1974, p.49

Obama hates Churchill for such statements about Islam and because the way Obama views the UK and its history with Kenya and Obama’s own father. Obama did indeed return the Churchill bust loaned to it by the UK:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100173136/churchill-bust-debacle-amateurish-obama-white-house-remains-firmly-in-denial/

Obama, simply put, is an un-American punk who at the end of the day has no real skills besides being able to read the kings English off a teleprompter, something I’m sure he disdains because of his own moslem and arab heritage.

Stupid liberal American Caucasians and uneducated pseudo descendants of African slaves are responsible for the election and rise to power of a person who hates America. Soon their ranks will be joined by the uneducated dregs from Mexico who will in lock step happily kill what is left of a great Republic as islam and La Santisima Muerte meet and join together to ravage a once great country. Winston Churchill was right, rabid dogs do what rabid dogs do.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 4:41:26 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: the scotsman

What part of “police waited helplessly for armed officers to arrive” did you not understand? Police waited helplessly. Here in the U.S., the police are armed and would have blown these 2 terrorists to pieces, on scene. The capacity of too many Brits for passivity amazes me, considering their history before the politically correct 60’s came into being and the gun swipers came into power.

Your police procedure sucks, and you are trying to portray the U.K. as a civilized country that doesn’t want armed police, even if the times have changed greatly from the good old days. Your enemies are not politically correct. They will attack you below the belt at every turn. You, civilized, them savages. They will beat you every time unless you figure out the error of your ways. This will be the death of the U.K. Death by PC.


28 posted on 05/24/2013 4:42:49 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: the scotsman

What’s the word on the UK streets from your countrymen, scotsman? Everything we get is filtered through your media. Give me some sense of how the ordinary Brit is feeling and what is being said, if you please. What discussions are going on in the pubs?


29 posted on 05/24/2013 4:43:59 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: the scotsman
Does America being armed to the teeth make America safer?. No.

Does not being armed tot he teeth make the UK free'er? No, you guys are socialist, heading towards full on communism with a Muzzie twist.

30 posted on 05/24/2013 4:44:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: the scotsman

no men around? all cowards looking for their mommies to protect them? disgusting


31 posted on 05/24/2013 4:56:42 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: flaglady47

Firstly, helplessly is the usual newspaper nonsense. Just like the crack so19 female who according to one paper was ‘terrified’ (yeah right).

Secondly, I am not going to get into endless discussions about the UK police and arms. If Americans dont like it or dont feel safe about it, dont come here. Sorry to be blunt.


32 posted on 05/24/2013 4:57:46 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

don’t make excuses for how pathetic the law enforcement response was. the women had a lot more courage than the “police”


33 posted on 05/24/2013 4:57:58 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: the scotsman

There are those who parrot the myth that the USA has the highest gun murder rate in the world. Not saying that you are.


35 posted on 05/24/2013 4:59:00 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: sergeantdave

Angry, disgusted.
Near a tipping point.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 4:59:22 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: central_va

The UK has never been a gun owning populace. Gun owners like me are and have been a minority.

Socialist?. We have a Tory PM, a Tory-heavy coalition, and the biggest new party is UKIP. The real right wing party. We are reforming benefit to cut down on welfare cheats and welfare families/people, we are trying to curtail immigration. And more and more Brits want out of the EU.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 5:01:49 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

“Secondly, I am not going to get into endless discussions about the UK police and arms. If Americans dont like it or dont feel safe about it, dont come here. Sorry to be blunt.”

No accounting for stupidity. It’s been my experience that most Brits don’t like the USA anyhow, so no skin off my nose. It’s only when you need a country with guns (WWI and WWII) that you cozy up to us. Must have something to do with that 1776 thingy, lol.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 5:04:20 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: the scotsman

The UK is socialist, that cannot be denied. I cheer your efforts but hold no hope that the UK will ever return from the abyss.


40 posted on 05/24/2013 5:04:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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