Posted on 05/23/2013 5:06:09 PM PDT by the scotsman
The majority of British police and public, inc myself, do not want an fully-armed police. I wouldnt be adverse to all UK police being at least trained in firearms, and I want more armed units, but for all the hype, UK serious violence, gun crime/gun murder/terrorism, is still very low. Even most UK criminals overall arent armed. The UK has not (and will never reach) the level of violence that means an all-armed police force.
Nope. Britain, for all the hype, and yesterday, is still a safe country to live and travel in. You do not need weapons whilst travelling here. Millions of Americans and tourists come to the UK every year and are safe and have a great time with no crime. If you cant abide by our laws and culture, dont come.
Thanks the scotsman.
IPCC investigators have viewed CCTV of what happened, and said two officers fired guns and one discharged a Taser.
That was kind of an odd post in view of the topic of this thread, but I guess that kind of thinking is what is leading Britain down this path of regression and Islamic domination and shrinking from the world stage.
She needs to hit the range more often.
The perps threatened her with a knife and meat cleaver. She should have followed basic threat suppression tactics: Two to the chest and one to the head.
Post 21?.
“Seems to have been 9 [minutes response time] for the normal police, 20 for armed.”
When an emergency call is made, the armed British cops drive thru the Chunnel to Switzerland to pick up their guns, then drive back to England and confront the assailants.
LOL
Didnt you know Clarkson, May and Hammond are secret cops?. LOL
Actually the violent crime rate in Britain has risen dramatically since they became serious about gun control in 1919.
Before 1900, just about no gun controls at all in Britain and the entire country averaged less than 5 armed robberies per year. That is according to a British constable named Colin Greenwood.
According to the former head of the U.S. Federal prison system, the rate of crime among Americans of European descent is just about identical to most European countries.
“....the rate of crime among Americans of European descent is just about identical to most European countries.”
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Does that mean that diversity is not all what it is cracked up to be?
Too late now.
As I have opinted out numerous times, British classification of violent crime skews how ‘violent’ the UK is. The fact is that we have a fraction of the gun crime, gun murder and murder of the US. One fifth the size but levels of some violent crime are one-sixteenth.
The UK rise remember comes from a level of near-zero, which is why the UK was considered perhaps the safest place on earth at one time and the British bobby didnt need anything but his trusty truncheon.
Yes, the UK has got more violent, but is still a safe/very safe nation. I am sure the many Americans who live here would tell you that.
14 minutes. In *London*. Bravo.
I am not all that familiar with British or UK crime statistics but I read an article recently which said their rate of occupied home burglaries is many times worse than in the U.S.
I don’t know what they are but some other types of crime were greater than here.
I take offense with the publiciized statement that it took ONLY 14 MINUTES for armed police to show up.
According to WITNESSES , it was 20 minutes before ARMED POLICE arrived , to confront 2 armed jihadists.
Police may have arrived withihn 6 minutes , then seeing that the perps were armed , called for armed police backup .
That would be another 14 minutes later that armed police could confront armed terrorists.
That is a secenario that I can beleive in a disarmed community where guns are looked down upon.
I believe witnesses , .. not the media release .
Had that been Texas , Arizona, Alaska, Vermont, Florida etc ...more than likely said “average” woman would have dropped her groceries to the curb, drawn her pistol, stepped out of the crowd watching these two bastards and stopped it before the soldier was murdered.....
Specialist Brit cop my ass....
I had a feeling that was going to be the case.
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