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Tea party vs. old guard in Senate GOP rift
Associated Press ^ | May 23, 2013 5:51 PM EDT | Andrew Taylor and Charles Babington

Posted on 05/23/2013 2:58:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A long-simmering feud between establishment Republicans and tea partyers is in full view again with Sen. John McCain accusing younger colleagues of using tactics that might tempt Democrats to change Senate rules that now protect the minority party.

How to deal with the government’s debt and spending became the latest quarrel between the GOP’s 2008 presidential candidate and tea party champions such as Senators Ted Cruz of Texas, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Mike Lee of Utah. …

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: amnesty; compromise; gopestablishment; juanmccain; mccain; mccain4obama; mcshame; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; rino; rinoconcerntrolls; sellouttodems; teaparty; tedcruz; wackobirds; whostherealwackobird

1 posted on 05/23/2013 2:58:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

McCain and corrupt old bulls don’t realize that decades of compromise,
from hacks, past and present, is why this country is on the verge of collapse.


2 posted on 05/23/2013 3:04:15 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Olog-hai

He has so much democrat up his butt that the democrat scandals are making him cranky.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 3:05:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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He must see “wacko birds” everywhere, like out of a scene from Hitchcock’s “The Birds” or something . . .


4 posted on 05/23/2013 3:06:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

McCain wants the media to give him a Lewinsky again.


5 posted on 05/23/2013 3:08:57 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Darren McCarty

THIS is why I do NOT trust them with any of the IRS investigations. The dims were only doing what the GOPe wishes they could have done. Who knows, GOPe hot shots may have given their approval.


6 posted on 05/23/2013 3:14:58 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Olog-hai

Psssst....hey McCain....the wacobirds are EVERYWHERE.

And they are looking at you with their wackobird-beedy-little-eyes.

Chirp-—Chirp-—Chirp...


7 posted on 05/23/2013 3:20:49 PM PDT by ak267 (The Law Of the Sea Treaty...LOST...must be defeated...CALL YOUR SENATORS!!!)
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To: Olog-hai
Hopefully we have seen the last of the "Tea Party" timidness of late. A new vigor and resolve should be felt and if the latest revelations don't embolden them, we are sunk.

It is time to redouble the efforts of the Patriots and Tea Party orgs to push the tyrannic officials out of office. Kill the IRS, and the rest of the alphabet soup agencies and we may have a chance.

We can double up on the 2010 efforts. Time to mobilize the patriotic troops. Exit the leftists, progressives and RINOS.

8 posted on 05/23/2013 3:26:00 PM PDT by Cannoneer
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To: Olog-hai

I seem to recall mccain attack gop for attempting to change the rules last time (using the nuclear option). If he was consistent, he blame dem


9 posted on 05/23/2013 3:35:10 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Olog-hai

Throw all the geezers OUT! In both parties. The fact that we have no term limits for congress is the reason why this country is in such a mess today. They’ve become entrenched and comfortable, and completely out of touch with We The People who they were sent there to represent. They resent young blood and new ideas, and even new technology (it intimidates them). Why do we put up with them? Can’t we at least primary out all the old fossils who are up for re-election next year? Just look at the Obamacare mess. They had to practically prop Ted Kennedy’s corpse up in his senate seat just to get that monstrosity passed.


10 posted on 05/23/2013 3:47:02 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Olog-hai

Tea party versus demorats.There,fixed it for ya.


11 posted on 05/23/2013 5:05:31 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

GOP-e being the same as the Democrats, yes.


12 posted on 05/23/2013 5:17:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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13 posted on 05/23/2013 5:27:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

AP does it’s job and prepares people to blame Republicans for the coming Democrat Senate rules change.

Yes, propagandists never sleep.


14 posted on 05/23/2013 5:37:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Olog-hai
It is easy to know who was on the side of the angels in this dispute. John McCain has been a source of problems to us for years. Some time ago when he was making his run for the presidency I tried to understand the essential character of John McCain. Here is my conclusion which I believe has stood the test of time:

Understanding John McCain

McCain's Vietnam experience was so shattering that he sees the world through a new lens, the experience so profound that he has emerged from it with a lifelong commitment to country. This gives credibility to McCain's claim that he is a maverick, beholden not to party but to principle and country. This claim to independence is necessary in a political climate in which the present occupant of the White House is found to be unsatisfactory by nearly three out of four Americans. So, the narrative explains why a voter can believe that John McCain is different from ordinary politicians, especially ordinary Republican politicians, and they can't believe he should be trusted to embark on a new course away from current administration policies.

At the end of his acceptance speech, McCain recited how he came to be utterly broken but then restored, even redeemed with a new commitment to service to others when a fellow prisoner urged him by prison telegraph not to quit and die but instead to carry on the fight out of respect for his comrades who even then were carrying on the fight for him.

Psychologists and scholars of religious experience, especially Christian scholars, have long been aware of the empowering release generated by total surrender of the will. One can describe this in psychological language, or in Biblical language, or even in evangelical idiom.

Whatever language one uses to describe these epiphanies there is no question that very often they are real and long lasting. Psychologists would begin to explain the phenomenon by reference to the ego. An Old Testament scholar might think in terms of the first and second Commandments and the muscular faith which follows adherence to them. Christians speak of dying to the self, picking up the cross and following the Savior to become a new man-to be born again. Perhaps the most famous example is recounted in the Book of Acts which tells that Saul of Tarsus was physically knocked off his horse by the Holy Spirit. Saul experiences an epiphany, Saul becomes Paul, and is transformed from a murderous persecutor of Christians to a fully committed martyr who becomes the great evangelist of the early church, indomitable in spirit, inflexible in commitment, and-like the other disciples- utterly fearless. Significantly, Paul, the newbie Christian, does not shrink later from taking on Peter the acknowledged leader of the disciples "to his face" to dispute matters of doctrine.

In contemporary history we have the example of George Bush and his transforming encounter with Reverend Billy Graham. Indeed, we have the Reverend Billy Graham's own epiphany in the forest. We have the numberless examples recited daily in meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous. It is from the success of this group that countless so-called "12 step" groups have been formed to apply successfully the same empowering message of surrender.

The important thing to understand about these epiphanies is that when they are genuine they are often life-long and tremendously empowering. Lives really are transformed forever. Criminals go straight, alcoholics stay sober, and the miserable are made happy. In fact, these newly born spirits enjoy their new condition so much that they seek ways to prolong the joy they have obtained in their moment of sweet release. Almost universally, these people find that service to others is the surest way to prolong that wonderful feeling of well-being.

Isolated, sick, starved and beaten beyond human endurance, John McCain ultimately broke and signed a confession which he mistakenly assumed amounted to a betrayal of his country. Who was this wretched man who lay so anguished in that cell? In his memoir and in his speech, McCain described himself as a kind of a hotshot jet jock, a screwup, a discipline problem in school, and an accomplished accumulator of demerits as a midshipman. Evidently, he was also an enthusiastic swordsman. In short, he was an arrogant SOB. Now, in that cell, he had fallen far. The classic description of the crushing of the ego. At this pivotal moment came the means of his redemption via the prison telegraph: Service to others out of love of country. In his speech McCain declared:

"And I wasn't my own man anymore, I was my country's"

And now we know the rest of the story. This is not to say that John McCain was instantly sanctified in all respects, far from it. He still had to swim his way out of a giant mental, moral and spiritual hangover from his ordeal. His screwing around would cost him his marriage before he could swim to shore. Even today, the old self bursts out in temper. But when one lays this template over the rest of John McCain’s career, one should have little difficulty accepting the story as being essentially true (I for one believe it) and to accept it as a convincing explanation of his career and his conception of his role as president.

Before considering the implications of all of this for conservatives, it is instructive to consider what it means to liberals. [And to compare it to Barak Obama's story]

In a word: "nothing." Liberals do not see it because they cannot see it. They simply do not get it. The whole idea of gaining empowerment through surrendering is as psychologically repugnant to liberals as is the idea of accepting a higher authority in their lives. Consider the Democrat party to be a gigantic creaking contrivance to legitimatize liberals in their insatiable quest to feed their egos. The job of this machine is to provide rationalizations. The obvious examples are sex without consequences and abortion without guilt. These examples demonstrate that the rationalization machine can be quite deadly as it kills 3 to 4 million babies a year. The pernicious doctrines emanating from The Frankfurt School such as moral relativism, feminism, and critical theory find application not just in cultural issues like abortion which kill babies but across the board, touching all government policy and every aspect of our lives.

To repeat, the whole purpose of this Democrat apparatus is to turn thinking on its head and provide a language to liberals so they can continue to play God (especially with other people's lives). Liberals will never about-face and cast away everything that feeds their ego addictions. That is why we hear them using English words but it comes out as a different language.

What about the implications for us conservatives of John McCain's epiphany?

Well that of course depends on how John McCain defines putting country first. It's quite clear that he is not replaced his giant ego trip with a classic Reaganesque conservative philosophy. The danger for conservatives is that John McCain has no identifiable framework, no principled political philosophy upon which to identify the nation's interest.

The great danger to us conservatives, and of course to the nation as a whole, is that John McCain operates ad hoc.

This is what George Will has been alluding to in his column in which he expressed his dismay that McCain has called for the firing of SEC Chairman Cox, "It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed"

We know what Barak Obama's vision for America is, it is written down, not in his own autobiographies, but in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. We know also that John McCain has been intensely energized with a vision for America. We're just not quite sure what it is that informs that vision.


15 posted on 05/24/2013 1:11:24 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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