[dfwgator]

I have known quite a number of Poles to whom Sept. 1st. is their September 11th.

As many will also recognize September 17th as their September 11th.

[jmacusa]

Yes. That's when the Russians stabbed them in the back.(after Hitler forces had done most of the dirty work.( Lazy ass Russians.) Years ago I knew a Pole who lived in eastern Poland. The Russians took away his father, mother and two sisters. He never saw them again. They worked him and his younger brother nearly to death, keeping them going by shots of vodka when they did well and rifle butts when they didn't. His brother died of typhoid fever. Only he survived. In all my life I've never met someone so deeply scarred and so quitely angry. This mans anger was smoldering. I used to drink with him sometimes and always his first toast was to the memory of his family, the second was to America for being ''the greatest country of them all'' and the third was a curse in Polish(I could never pronounce it) that meant "Russians are dirty dogs'' or some such.