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To: exDemMom

Pope John Paul II, the great, practical theologian and philosopher, said abortion is the fruit of contraception, one.

The scientists agree that life begins at conception, and abortifacients certainly are, by definition, causative to abortion.

When people, men who like to tell girls all about what they think about life, say all kinds of things without any information from informed philosophers, scientists and publications, they are not worth listening to and they can do a lot of destruction.

Read up on what you’re talking about, like most pro choice people ought to.


101 posted on 05/15/2013 5:23:52 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Let’s put it this way.

Pro-aborts use anything they can to discredit the pro-life position. If you claim to be pro-life based on some non-scientific criterion, then you give the pro-aborts the ammo they need to ridicule and dismiss the pro-life position. They don’t just laugh at the idea that “ha-ha-ha, he actually believes that a just fertilized egg is exactly like a newborn baby”—they extend that out to ridicule any claim that a baby can possibly be alive before birth.

IMO, the strongest position you can have is one that is based purely on objective, observable, measurable characteristics of the embryo.

Scientifically, there is nothing particularly special about a fertilized egg. It is made when two living cells fuse together to become one living cell. Since cell fusion is a common event, fertilization is not a defining event. Neither is unique DNA. Even though cells are dividing in the fertilized ovum, they have no form. Form and function don’t start showing up until after implantation. You don’t need a scientist (like me) to tell you that everything you know, all of your perceptions, feelings, thoughts, etc., are only possible because you have a brain in your head, and that removal of the brain—even if the rest of your body can be kept alive—would essentially eliminate you as a person. So, as a measure of what makes us human, I think that formation of the nervous system is the defining event. Before the nervous system develops, there is nothing but a clump of featureless cells. After the nervous system starts to develop, there is an embryo that has awareness of its world.

Also, I don’t believe that God implants a soul at fertilization. I know it is a romantic concept for some people, but I am also aware that most fertilized ova never even implant, much less go on to become embryos. I do not believe that God kills off 9 souls for every one that is allowed to live.


108 posted on 05/15/2013 7:56:55 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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