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To: SeekAndFind; nathanbedford; Noumenon

Let me start by saying I was 100% for Nixon’s impeachment and removal from office, and I would be very happy for Obama to be impeached and removed.

One of the keys in the Nixon case was methodically demonstrating that he had committed, or caused to be committed, crimes. It was not until the evidence of this was beyond dispute that the last barriers to his removal collapsed.

Obama’s bad judgement is not a crime. Lies told by willing liars are not crimes. Obama’s affinity for overseas Muslim scum is not a crime - and, since this affinity is no secret, and was not a secret in 2008, the fact that he’s been elected twice in spite of it makes the chance of one of the political branches turning it into a crime zero.

A lot of the “impeach Obama” talk here is reckless and stupid. He is not going to be impeached for deciding not to send the Marines to confront an Arab mob rioting in a foreign city. That was cowardice, for sure, fuelled by his weird sympathies and bad judgement, but it wasn’t a crime.

I have no doubt that a proper investigation of the Obama administration by either a special Benghazi committee, or better yet the House Judiciary Committee, under the supervision of experienced prosecutors and with an adequate budget for investigation, would disclose many felonies and breaches of his oath of office. He has repeatedly failed to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. He has inspired, or directed, felonious harassment of citizens for their political views. He has not defended the Constitution against its many domestic enemies - far from it, he has sought them out and rewarded them with high offices.

But to reach the goal of his removal, this case will have to be proven to the House and to the People. None of his Benghazi misfeasances (that we know about so far) are going to accomplish this.


120 posted on 05/12/2013 2:37:48 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
What a quisling servant to the democrips you are proving yourself to be. Did you really think at FR we would not catch your LIE? ... "He is not going to be impeached for deciding not to send the Marines to confront an Arab mob rioting in a foreign city."

I've watched you play little barry absatard boy apologist for a long time now, but that effort you just tried is one of the most blatant attempts to cover his expose ass yet!

136 posted on 05/12/2013 3:10:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Jim Noble
You are quite correct, Jim Impeachment is essentially a political dance performed in in a judicial costume. You are also quite correct in pointing out the difference in the atmosphere surrounding Nixon and Obama. The media had loathed Nixon at least since his victory over their favorite radical leftist (probably communist sympathizer and certainly Lyndon Johnson mistress) Helen Gahagan Douglas in the 1940s. Their hatred was only compounded by his turning the tables on them in the Alger Hiss case. In every assault they made on Nixon, for example the "checkers" controversy, he contrived to overcome and advance toward political power. From Congressman to Senator, to Vice President, to President

Nixon was a hater but he was given good grounds to hate. What he did in office was to consolidate what his predecessors had done. Roosevelt had acted extra-constitutionally in so many places it is difficult to catalog them all. Kennedy had actually bought his election, clearly a more heinous offense and a more constitutionally impeachable offense than Nixon's slush fund and his dirty tricks. "Landslide Lyndon", had participated in the theft of the 1960 presidential election along the Texas-Mexican border just as he had his own prior Senatorial victory. In fact, he was put on the ticket to deliver Texas by such means as well as to influence the rest of the South. Johnson lied to the American public about Vietnam and surreptitiously tape-recorded White House conversations, as had Roosevelt.

But the ground had been carefully plowed for at least 25 years prior to the run-up to the resignation of "tricky Dick" Nixon. There has been no similar preparation of the public for the impeachment of Barack Obama. There cannot be because of his race.

But there is another consideration. Republican senators who went to the White House and told Nixon he must resign acted out of conscience as well as out of a sense of political self-preservation. I mean to say that Republicans are at least amenable to appeals to observe the mandate of the Constitution and to comply with the rule of law because at root they believed in the system. Democrats on the other hand despise the system, despise the Constitution, and consider the rule of law to be an impediment to the good they intend to do. So they are not really amenable to appeals to conscience, they are only amenable to appeals to their ideology. One of the first elements of their ideology is the question of race in America. They will never depart from their fixed idea that Republicans/conservatives are racists and their crusade is to undo that moral failing in America. A second element is their idea that the American free-market system is inherently incapable of producing fairness and must be replaced and, while the struggle to replace it is ongoing, it is immoral to respect it and fully moral to despise it. Anything that supports that system, such as the Constitution and the rule of law, must equally be despised.

When we FReepers scratch our heads and ask ourselves how can Democrats depart from the Constitution or from common sense we are bootlessly trying to make logic in our universe of that which occurs in a different universe. Until we understand the Democrats see themselves as holy moral but think in entirely different fundamental terms, we will always be vulnerable to their deceits.

Barak Obama is immune from impeachment because a majority in the Senate is comprised of Democrats who regard impeachment not as a solution for high crimes and misdemeanors but as a political ploy. That which advances their ideological worldview is good regardless of its inherent morality or reasonableness and that which retards the advancement of their ideology is evil.

When some one remarked, "goodness what a beautiful ring!" Mae West replied, "Goodness had nothing to do with it."

182 posted on 05/13/2013 12:15:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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