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To: wintertime

re: “. . .compulsory K-12 socialist-entitment schooling.”

I understand the “compulsory” part, but I’ve never understood the rest of the description that you constantly make about public schools. My question is, aren’t the police and fire departments just as “socialist” as the public schools? They are all financially supported through taxes. Not everyone will call the police or the fire department, so why should a citizen who never calls the fire department have to pay taxes for it?

A majority of people in each state, county, town at one time decided that educating the children who lived in those entities was a positive for everyone - because the children were the future professionals and leaders which would, at some point, affect all of us. Just as having a police or fire department can/may have a positive benefit for all the citizens of that community. So, what’s the difference?

I’m not defending idiotic curriculum or low standards - I think each town, city, state should determine what they want their schools to be - without any federal government intervention. In fact, there should NOT be a Federal Dept of Education. The Federal government has NO constitutional authority to get involved in it whatsoever. However, isn’t that up to individual states whether or not THEY want to have publicly supported schools? Is that necessarily “communistic” as you always say? Again, if schools are, then why not police and fire departments?

re: “It is impossible to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral education.”

I agree, but wasn’t there, at one time, a set of common values shared by most Americans that we wanted our kids to know and adhere to? - the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution? Does the religious expressions in the Declaration impede on others religious or non-religious beliefs? The Declaration is not neutral either, nor is the Constitution - is that bad? Aren’t the values expressed there ones that we WANT our children to know?

You equate public schools with socialism/marxism/collectivism by definition. I don’t see that that MUST be the case. I don’t see any difference between publicly supported schools and publicly supported police and fire departments. If the people of a town, city, or state doesn’t want those institutions, couldn’t the people of that state vote to remove them?


12 posted on 05/12/2013 8:43:12 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: rusty schucklefurd
Last time I checked the police and firemen were not teaching children to think and reason godlessly.

Children who attend our nation's GODLESS socialist-entitlement schools MUST think and reason godlessly just to cooperate in the GODLESS classroom, read and understand their GODLESS textbooks, and complete their GODLESS home assignments. How could it be otherwise?

And...Every argument you have use to defend our nation's compulsory-use, compulsory funded, socialist-entitlement , and single-payer schools will be used in a few decades to defend Obamacare!

13 posted on 05/12/2013 9:12:03 AM PDT by wintertime
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