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To: Jeff Winston
And by a genuine authority, I mean someone who clearly had the authority to speak for the Founders or Framers, who wasn't absolutely contradicted by them, or who was one of our top NATIONAL legal experts, at any time prior to 1850.

Already posted Bushrod Washington and Chief Justice John Marshall. Again, my two Supremes beat your English Lawyer. Posted Secretary of state James Monroe, Posted James Madison. Posted James Wilson, Posted Benjamin Franklin, and so on...

Not my fault that you have the attention span of a humming bird. (And brains to match.)

247 posted on 05/13/2013 4:12:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Already posted Bushrod Washington and Chief Justice John Marshall.

Bull****. Neither said a thing about the meaning of natural born citizen in The Venus.

John Marshall also said there was ONE error in Bayard's book, and "natural born citizen" wasn't it. So Marshall agreed with Bayard on what it took for a person to be eligible to be President. Marshall contradicts you.

Posted Secretary of state James Monroe

Bull****. Monroe's administration affirmed James McClure was a United States citizen, and the sole reason given was that he was born in Charleston, SC. So James Monroe contradicts you.

Actually, I need to add him and Marshall to the list of early authorities.

Posted James Madison.

Bull****.Madison said that both parentage and place of birth were criteria that made for citizenship, but that place of birth was "the most certain," and it was "what applies in the United States."

James Madison, Father of the Constitution, contradicts you.

Posted James Wilson

Bull****. Wilson also said in order to be a "citizen" of that particular State (in the sense in which he used the word) you had to have paid your taxes in the past 2 years. Obviously he was talking oranges, not apples.

Posted Benjamin Franklin

Bull****. Franklin thanked somebody for a copy of Vattel. BFD. Franklin NEVER said it took birth on US soil plus citizen parents for Presidential eligibility or natural born citizenship. And his one close associate (Rawle) ABSOLUTELY contradicts you, and his other close associate (the Duc de la Rochefoucauld) certainly says nothing about parentage.

Franklin doesn't contradict you (since he never seems to have spoken on the matter) but his close associates do.

As does Thomas Jefferson's very close lifelong friend Phllip Mazzei, and so, so many other authorities.

, and so on...

Yes, and so on. The fact is, there doesn't seem to be any end to the amount of bull**** you'll spin in order to try and prop up your failed, BS Constitutional claims.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: You're a complete fraud.

255 posted on 05/13/2013 4:38:22 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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