Posted on 05/09/2013 12:25:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
Like most academics, professors of economics are not generally stupid people, IQ-wise. But they do have a remarkable ability to lose sight of basic realities. Ive seen this over and over again.
I just had an extended e-mail exchange with one Ron Boudreaux, a professor of economics at George Mason University, about the trade deficit. Now Im not going to offer any comment on it, and will just let the reader judge for himself whos right in the back-and-forth below. (Feel free to post a comment or e-mail me if you think I was mistaken.)
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Dear Mr. Fletcher:
I received your e-mail today asking me, along with 4,999 other people, each to contribute $10 to help your protectionist pro-monopoly organization, the Coalition for a Prosperous America, raise $50,000. Understandably, you attempt in that mass e-mail to persuade us to make net investments in your organization by assuring us that our investments will make the CPA more productive and, hence, better able to achieve its goals.
Yet among the promises you offer in your fund-raising pitch is that the CPA will work to eliminate the trade deficit that is, to prevent non-Americans as a group from making net investments in America.
Query: if the CPA benefits when non-CPAers invest in the CPA, why do you think that America suffers when non-Americans invest in America? That is, can you explain why the productivity of you and your colleagues at the CPA will rise if I make a net investment in the CPA while the productivity of you, me, and other American workers will fall if someone from Toronto or Tokyo or Timbuktu makes a net investment in America?
Youll receive my $10 upon my receipt of a satisfactory answer from you to my question.
Sincerely,
Donald J. Boudreaux Professor of Economics and Martha and Nelson Getchell Chair for the Study of Free Market Capitalism at the Mercatus Center George Mason University Fairfax, VA 22030
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Don,
Your challenge was forwarded to me.
The reason trade-deficit-induced foreign investment in the U.S. is bad is that it is not net new investment. It is merely the transfer of existing American investments to foreign ownership to compensate foreigners for shipping us more stuff than we ship them. And because ownership of assets is transferred, their net worth goes up and ours goes down: they are richer than they would have been, and we are poorer.
Furthermore, they will receive the future returns on those assets and we wont.
There are important secondary effects, and some net/gross issues that may confuse you, but thats the nub of it.
Best Regards,
Ian Fletcher, Senior Economist Coalition for a Prosperous America
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Ian,
Nope.
When Ikea builds a store in the U.S. our net wealth doesnt go down.
Don
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Don,
Thats not the issue.
When Swedish, rather than American, investors *own* an Ikea store in the U.S., Swedish investors are richer, by the size of the investment, than they would have been, and American investors are correspondingly poorer.
Ian
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Ian,
That is simply untrue.
Don
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Don,
If you, rather than I, have a certain $100 bill, youre richer than you would be if you didnt have it, and I am poorer.
This isnt even a matter of economics. Its just accounting.
Ian
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Ian
Many thanks for your two replies to my e-mail of yesterday.
You write in your first e-mail that a U.S. trade deficit is merely the transfer of existing American investments to foreign ownership to compensate foreigners for shipping us more stuff than we ship them. And because ownership of assets is transferred, their net worth goes up and ours goes down: they are richer than they would have been, and we are poorer. Furthermore, they will receive the future returns on those assets and we wont. In a follow-up note you claim that when the Swedish furniture retailer Ikea builds a store in America Swedish, rather than American, investors *own* an Ikea store in the U.S., Swedish investors are richer, by the size of the investment, than they would have been, and American investors are correspondingly poorer.
With respect, there are so many mistakes and misconceptions lurking in your replies that a response much longer than a routine e-mail note is required to address them all. Yet although I* (and scholars far more knowledgeable and articulate than I am) have written extensively on this issue, I welcome the opportunity, in coming days, to do so again, because a faulty understanding (such as yours) of the trade deficit fuels calls (such as yours) for protectionist policies whose adoption would make us less prosperous, less peaceful, and less free.
But I cant resist here just one quick query: when my Virginia neighbor Mr. Jones opens a successful retail shop in Virginia, does his success make me poorer? If not, why am I made poorer when my global neighbor Mr. Ikea opens a successful retail shop in Virginia?
This letter, though, being already too long on a holiday weekend, I close simply with a quotation from Adam Smiths Wealth of Nation a quotation that proves nothing except that concerns such as yours are ancient, have proven false again and again, and have been addressed by serious economists since the launch of our discipline:
There is no commercial country in Europe of which the approaching ruin has not frequently been foretold by the pretended doctors of this system from an unfavourable balance of trade. After all the anxiety, however, which they have excited about this, after all the vain attempts of almost all trading nations to turn that balance in their own favour and against their neighbours, it does not appear that any one nation in Europe has been in any respect impoverished by this cause. Every town and country, on the contrary, in proportion as they have opened their ports to all nations, instead of being ruined by this free trade, as the principles of the commercial system would lead us to expect, have been enriched by it.**
Sincerely,
Donald J. Boudreaux Professor of Economics and Martha and Nelson Getchell Chair for the Study of Free Market Capitalism at the Mercatus Center George Mason University Fairfax, VA 22030
* http://cafehayek.com/category/balance-of-payments
** Adam Smith, An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations (Indianapolis: Liberty Fund, 1981 [1776]), Vol. 1, pp. 496-497. This quotation appears in Book IV, Chapter 3: http://tinyurl.com/cw4beec
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Don,
You are giving the right answer to the wrong question.
If a neighbor opens a store which he then owns, you are 100% correct that this act does not make you poorer.
But you are still poorer than you would be if *you* owned it.
Ian
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Ian,
What does this answer have to do with trade? Of course Id be richer if I consumed less and invested more. But nothing that a foreigner does prevents me from doing so. You seem to assume that theres a fixed amount of capital in the world. That assumption is mistaken.
Don
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Don,
You write, Of course Id be richer if I consumed less and invested more.
You are correct. Which is why consuming more than we produce, by means of a trade deficit that must be financed by asset sales or debt assumption, makes us poorer.
Ian
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Ian,
Your understanding of the trade deficit is faulty. If Mr. Ikea builds a store in New Jersey, capital is created. No American goes into debt as a consequence of such a transaction.
Sometimes the trade deficit becomes debt, but it is notcontrary to your assumptionnot necessarily or by its nature debt.
Don
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Don
Once again, youre correct, but youre answering the wrong question.
A trade deficit is, granted, not always financed by debt. But it *is* always financed by either debt or the transfer of existing assets.
Foreigners must be given *something* of value to compensate them for the fact that we export less to them than they do to us.
If this were not the case, they would be playing Santa Claus and giving us stuff for free.
Ian
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Ian,
No it isnt.
A $1 increase in Americas trade deficit might be evidence that Americans debt to foreigners rose by $1. (Whether or not such an increase in debt to foreigners is a bad deal economically for Americans is a separate question: it might or it might not be.) But a $1 increase in Americas trade deficit might very easily not mean that Americans have gone into an extra dollars worth of debt to non-Americans.
Its childs play to give examples of how Americas trade deficit can rise without Americans debt rising or Americans asset holdings falling. Heres just one example: Valerie in Virginia buys $1 of shoelaces from Hans in Hamburg. Hans adds his $1 to $999,999 of his German friends dollars that his friends (and now he) use to open a restaurant in Miami. Americas trade deficit rises as result of Valeries purchase of foreign-made shoelaces. Yet no American is any more deeply in debt as a result; this transaction hasnt caused Americans debt to rise by as much as a single cent. And no Americans (or Americans) asset holding are reduced by $1.
Don
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Don,
No, your example doesnt work. Valerie has $1 less in assets now.
Furthermore, since no American gains an asset, Valeries asset decline of $1 entails a $1 asset decline for America as a whole.
Ian
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That was the end of the e-mail exchange. As I said, I leave it to the reader to judge whose logic holds water. I will merely note that if mine does, then our $500 billion a year trade deficit must be a big problem.
Ian Fletcher is Senior Economist of the Coalition for a Prosperous America, a nationwide grass-roots organization dedicated to fixing Americas trade policies and comprising representatives from business, agriculture, and labor. He was previously Research Fellow at the U.S. Business and Industry Council, a Washington think tank, and before that, an economist in private practice serving mainly hedge funds and private equity firms. Educated at Columbia University and the University of Chicago, he lives in San Francisco. He is the author of Free Trade Doesnt Work: What Should Replace It and Why.
Ian Fletchers: The Conservative Case Against Free Trade Ian Fletchers Free Trade Doesnt Work
I have to go with the professor on this one, much as I tend to be prejudiced against the breed.
No, your example doesnt work. Valerie has $1 less in assets now.
Furthermore, since no American gains an asset, Valeries asset decline of $1 entails a $1 asset decline for America as a whole.
Ian
Ian assumes that people go against what is in their best interest. Valerie gave up $1 in exchange for shoelaces that she feels are worth more than the $1 she used to have in her pocket. Most sane people will not trade at a loss.
In this case, assuming Valerie places a value on the shoelaces of $1.01, Valerie has greater assets after the transaction than before.
He calls him both Ron several times. But it looks like his name is Don.
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