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To: Sam Clements

“I can see a solution where these people can be alowed to stay because we aren’t going to send them home anyway.”

Then they are going to be able to vote.

“They do NOT need to be granted citizenship or allowed to vote.”

Yes, they can and they should. If we are allowing them to stay, live here, work and pay taxes, then they will have representation in Congress. No taxation without representation.

“Why should they?”

Because they pay taxes to the US and they have residency here in the US.

“As non citizens they also should NOT be allowed to collect any form of welfare including Obamacare.”

Again - if they are here and we make them legal, yes, they will have access to all of these things.

“If they do work they need to pay taxes just like everyone else.”

If they are paying taxes, then they ought to receive benefits from those same taxes.

“option of going back home where their actual government could help.”

This is their home. Once we let them in and make them legal - America is their home.

“The American taxpayers can not shoulder the responsibility for every person in the world.”

This is why welfare should be eliminated.

“In the future, the new immigration policies can never allow illegal aliens to pile up here again.”

So why are you repeating the same mistake as before? Deport them.

“They didn’t come here to become citizens or to vote”

Says who? You?

“they shouldn’t be given those priviledges especially since their first act on American soil was to break our laws and violate our sovereignty.”

If they are being granted Amnesty because the state is hungry for revenue, then this no longer matters.

The solution is simple. If found to be here illegally - deport them. Sure you might not get them all but you will get some.


97 posted on 05/10/2013 7:07:30 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Again and for the last time, deportation of 11 million people is not going to happen. It is silly to hang onto this idea because it is not going to happen. If they decide to stay, they do NOT have to be declared citizens or allowed to vote if the bill does not grant these priviledges. There are plenty of non citizen aliens in the USA and most other advanced countries in the world. The mere fact that they choose to live in a foreign country does not give them citizenship or the right to vote, or receive welfare payments period. Cruz’s suggestion that a path to citizenship be stripped from immigration reform is sensible and doable.


98 posted on 05/10/2013 11:51:19 AM PDT by Sam Clements
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