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To: DiogenesLamp
It has always been MY position that neither the law or the 14th amendment was ever intended to grant citizenship to illegal immigrants. There is no need to pass a law to address them because they were never permitted by law.

There's a need to pass a law, because they are currently treated as US citizens.

Apart from that, Barack Obama Sr. was in the country illegally. He lied on his Visa application about supporting or associating with Communists, and he Lied about his association with Polygamy and his moral character. Had he told the truth, his Visa would have been rejected.

This is BS as well. If Sr. had a visa, then he was in the US legally. He may have broken the law to get that visa, and the visa would probably have been subject to being revoked, but until it was, if you have a visa, that's official permission, and you're in the country legally.

Is literally everything you say bull****?

181 posted on 05/10/2013 11:26:08 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
There's a need to pass a law, because they are currently treated as US citizens.

The solution is to correct the INCORRECT UNDERSTANDING of the law which is ubiquitous throughout the legal profession, not to pass new law. Unless you made it an amendment, the supreme court would simply overturn it as denying illegal aliens their constitutional rights to be citizens based on the same stupid-@$$ precedents you keep citing.

This is BS as well. If Sr. had a visa, then he was in the US legally. He may have broken the law to get that visa, and the visa would probably have been subject to being revoked, but until it was, if you have a visa, that's official permission, and you're in the country legally.

How is lying to get in different from sneaking across the border to get in? I would say it's even worse. On the one hand, the government was avoided, and so the Government could not act because of a lack of knowledge, on the other hand the government was deliberately told lies to gain entry.

I know which one I would consider more offensive.

189 posted on 05/10/2013 11:39:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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