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To: DiogenesLamp; Mr Rogers; Nero Germanicus
"... And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States."

Okay, thanks for providing the broader quote. The source where I looked it up only had the part that I quoted. Otherwise I would've included the rest.

And yes, in the case of children born outside of the United States, Congress did specify that the father had to have been resident in the United States at some point in his life, in order for his child to be a natural born citizen.

This measure was designed to prevent entire generations of American citizens from being born in foreign countries. Because without that provision, Jack Smith could have moved to France, and every one of Jack's French-born descendants from then on would have been a US citizen, even though neither they nor their fathers had ever lived here.

Now, note the main point:

The First Congress, and our first President, which included 40% of the Signers of the Constitution, clearly and specifically provided that children born abroad to US citizens were natural born citizens. They did so knowing full well that if someone was a natural born citizen, that conferred Presidential eligibility. And they made no comment whatsoever specifying otherwise.

So it is both obvious and undeniable that they intended for the children born abroad to US citizens to be eligible to the Presidency, as long as they were born to a father who had at some point in his life actually lived in the United States.

They thus specified, with absolute clarity, that it DID NOT require "birth on US soil, plus two citizen parents," for a person to be a natural born citizen, or to be eligible to the Presidency of the United States.

Now we can talk about other things, and we have. And your claims have been shown to be absolute BS again and again and again, literally at every turn. But we really need go no further than this.

Once again, the Framers of the Constitution say that you're completely full of you know what.

167 posted on 05/10/2013 10:53:14 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
Okay, thanks for providing the broader quote. The source where I looked it up only had the part that I quoted. Otherwise I would've included the rest.

You have got to be kidding me. The naturalization act of 1790 has been beaten to death for the last umpteen years, and you are telling me you didn't know about it or how to find the full text? This statement doesn't pass the smell test.

And yes, in the case of children born outside of the United States, Congress did specify that the father had to have been resident in the United States at some point in his life, in order for his child to be a natural born citizen.

"shall be considered as " does not mean "BE"

Ignoring the rest of your post.

174 posted on 05/10/2013 11:09:33 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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