“Others have posted citations and analyses implying that NBC is a citizen born in the counrty to two citizen parents. You and others have posted citations and analyses implying that NBC is everything else. Obviously, this is an unsettled question or we wouldn’t be having this discussion.”
Incorrect. This IS a settled question. All 50 states, including very conservative ones, consider it settled. All 535 members of Congress consider it settled. Every court considers it settled. No District Attorney anywhere in the US has objected. The US Supreme Court has rejected without comment every birther case. Sarah Palin and Mark Levin consider it settled law.
There is no legal argument about needing two citizen parents. None. At this point, every birther lawsuit should be fined for being frivolous. There simply is no legal basis for claiming a requirement to have two citizen parents to run for President.
Ted Cruz DOES fall in a gray area. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been a case to determine if someone like Ted Cruz is eligible. If he does try to run, it may well spark a case that has worthwhile arguments on both sides.
“Why would any American support a position that would allow the President of the United States of America to legally be subject to a foreign power?”
If Ted Cruz was elected President of the USA, no foreign power would claim his obedience. That is silly. Nor does Obama owe allegiance to either Kenya or the UK. He certainly has shown no loyalty to the UK, or even any fondness to the UK. He treats the UK with contempt.
“Mr. Rogers, I hope you did (do) well on your test (from a post a couple days ago) and are accepted by the college of your choice. Good luck.”
I’m sure I did fine. I’m 55, have my BS in Biology and an MBA, retired from the military after 25 years, and am taking classes because I’m tired of being retired. I had a 99% average going into the final, so I’m not sweating the results. The test last night was for legal ethics. It was a good class - well taught and thought provoking.
“If Ted Cruz was elected President of the USA, no foreign power would claim his obedience.”
It doesn’t work that way. A claim exists even if it is not exercised. Cruz is a Canadian citizen. He is therefore a subject of the Queen.
“Incorrect. This IS a settled question.”
This is a “settled” question like Global Warming was “settled” science.
“There is no legal argument about needing two citizen parents.”
If you changed the meaning of natural born citizen you are correct.
“Ted Cruz DOES fall in a gray area.”
How can Ted Cruz fall into a gray ares if this is “settled” law?
“If Ted Cruz was elected President of the USA, no foreign power would claim his obedience. That is silly.”
It’s not “silly”. Whether they “would” or not, is not the point. The point is they “could” - possibly Canada, most assuredly Cuba.
Not sure what information you have that “All 50 states” consider it settled, nor that all 535 member of Congress consider it settled. The fact that we have 535 members of Congress who cowardly refuse to publicly even discuss the issue does not mean they all agree with your definition.
The only court that matters is SCOTUS and they are evading the issue (Clarence Thomas’s words).
If it’s so black and white and 0bama meets your definition of natural born citizen, why wouldn’t SCOTUS have taken one of the cases that came to them, ruled that anyone can be President regardless of where he was born and what citizenship his parents held at the time, and be done with?
The reason is that they know he doesn’t meet the definition and they fear the repercussions of a finding stating he’s NOT eligible, and what it could do to the Country. Ruling 0bama eligible would just tick off the “few” of us “fringe” “birthers”. Ruling him ineligible, well that opens up a very LARGE can of worms that they’re afraid to open - which is why they’re “evading” the issue.
To the extent that we're talking about the "born on US soil of citizen parents" claim, this is absolutely true.
To those many unanimous authorities (which already represent almost every real authority in the country) we could also add the major conservative Constitutional organizations such as National Review, Heritage Foundation, and Hillsdale College.
Legally speaking this is a settled issue.
There is no legal argument about needing two citizen parents. None. At this point, every birther lawsuit should be fined for being frivolous. There simply is no legal basis for claiming a requirement to have two citizen parents to run for President.
Again, correct. And I agree on the lawsuits.