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Dems Say Need to Block ‘Stomach Churning’ Plastic Printable Gun is Urgent
Pajamas Media ^ | 05/07/2013 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 05/07/2013 10:08:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A New York Democrat wants to revise gun laws to encompass a downloadable plastic gun produced on a 3-D printer.

On Friday, Defense Distributed premiered its plastic firearm with only one small necessary metal part: the firing pin.

Rep. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) wants to pour water on this invention with his Undetectable Firearms Modernization Act, which extends a 1988 ban on plastic guns that expires this year and extends it to include homemade, plastic high-capacity magazines and receivers. The piece of metal in the downloadable gun, which allows it to be spotted by metal detectors, keeps it within current law.

“Security checkpoints, background checks, and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print plastic firearms at home and bring those firearms through metal detectors with no one the wiser. When I started talking about the issue of plastic firearms months ago, I was told the idea of a plastic gun is science-fiction. Now that this technology appears to be upon us, we need to act now to extend the ban on plastic firearms,” Israel said.

Israel “revamped” his bill to make it “illegal to manufacture, own, transport, buy, or sell any firearm, receiver, or magazine that is homemade and not detectable by metal detector and/or does not present an accurate image when put through an x-ray machine.”

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) was so alarmed by Friday’s demonstration video of the downloadable gun that he called a Sunday news conference to jump on board Israel’s bill.

“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can open a gun factory in their garage, and the weapons they make will be undetectable,” Schumer said. “It’s stomach churning.”

The senator clarified he doesn’t want to ban 3-D printers outright.
See update on next page.

UPDATE: On CNBC today, Schumer said “at the very least” Congress needs to make it “a crime to have such a gun.”

#8220;If the police see you carrying one on the street, they’ll know it’s a crime. If anybody sees you doing it, they’ll know it’s a crime,” he said. “What we should do beyond that, I don’t know. I mean, obviously there are First Amendment issues. We’ve had this issue about bombs being put on the Internet in the past. And obviously someone could go overseas and put something on the Internet where our laws don’t govern.”

“But we have to do more than just make it a crime. I agree with that, mindful of the various constitutional and other types of constraints,” the senator continued. “And I don’t want to abolish these printers, that’s for sure, because I think by and large they do good things.”

Schumer said Congress has to investigate all ways in which guns can be made and regulate them.

“Everyone saw that John Malkovich movie, In the Line of Fire. It was a frightening movie. He spent months and months and months trying to craft a gun made of wood and plastic and figuring out a way,” he said.

“Obviously, you still have to deal with the bullets, but they could be put in a metal casing that could get through a metal detector without it ever being revealed there — a bullet. But he spent months doing this so he could assassinate the president, and the movie was frightening. He was one of the best bad guys I’ve ever seen in a movie. But now it’s real. And that’s — that’s much more frightening.”

PJM FLASHBACK: Gutenberg’s Rifle: The Downloadable Firearm Is Almost Real



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; distributed; guncontrol; guns; printablegun; secondamendment
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To: SeekAndFind

Want a copy?

Here you go:

http://defcad.org/liberator/


41 posted on 05/07/2013 10:36:18 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: MissMagnolia

So cut back on Internet sales tax and I’ll give you my vote for gun control?

These pieces of excrement are completely out of control!


42 posted on 05/07/2013 10:36:47 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

Evidently he’s REALLY scared of Gabby Giffords & Mark Kelly so that excuses his tucking his tail and running. /s


43 posted on 05/07/2013 10:38:51 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Mister Tea
I wouldn’t try firing a gun made of 3D printer plastic

I can tell you from personal observation that a 12 ga shotgun barrel made of white oak, fiberglass and epoxy held up to 10 firings.

44 posted on 05/07/2013 10:39:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind
“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can open a gun factory in their garage

When I was last out in the shop, right before lunch, my unregistered lathe and milling machine were still right there.

If I was so inclined, I could be cranking out single-shot smoothbore .380s by the weekend.

I've only had that ablility for the last 2 decades or so, Chuckie..

/johnny

45 posted on 05/07/2013 10:41:01 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind
What are they going to do about all of the lathes and spot welding machines out there?


46 posted on 05/07/2013 10:41:15 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rep. Israel said, “Security checkpoints, background checks, and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print plastic firearms at home and bring those firearms through metal detectors with no one the wiser.

http://israel.house.gov/

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Checkpoints? This guy's nuts if he thinks criminals are going to bother leaning how to ‘print’ a gun. They're the folks who STEAL - that's why we call them criminals....

I'll also bet Mr. Israel is soft on crime.. and protects street criminals, rapists, thieves etc... He's after the second amendment... period.

47 posted on 05/07/2013 10:41:49 AM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the 33 million illegals home.)
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To: servo1969
I wouldn’t try firing a gun made of 3D printer plastic

It makes him sick because it BLASPHEMY! It's a challenge to the power of the state that filth like Schemer, 0, and all of their ilk worship. And the worst part about it is that he represents the viewpoint of the majority of the people in his electorate.

48 posted on 05/07/2013 10:43:10 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Schumer said Congress has to investigate all ways in which guns can be made and regulate them.”

A person can make a crude .22 out of a piece of metal and a hammer.

Regulate ‘this,’ Shummie.


49 posted on 05/07/2013 10:43:22 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: MissMagnolia

the NRA has no intention of becoming a political party—just wants to continue being the voice that it is. I have no reason to stay in the GOP—join the Constitution party or something—esp. because I live in NYC.


50 posted on 05/07/2013 10:43:48 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (I hope the FEMA camps are comfortable when they come for me)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Your place?


51 posted on 05/07/2013 10:45:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: rarestia

OMG !!! Stomach churning Schumer again ,does he even know what a 3D printer is ?


52 posted on 05/07/2013 10:45:41 AM PDT by molson209
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To: cuban leaf
Too late.

Yep. The Soviets tried the same thing with respect to printed material. Samizdat killed them. Making it illegal won't stop it, won't even slow it down. Welcome to the 21st century, Chuckie.

53 posted on 05/07/2013 10:46:49 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

“We’re facing a situation where anyone — a felon, a terrorist — can open a gun factory in their garage, and the weapons they make will be undetectable,” Schumer said.

Yes, but if everyone else can open a gun factory in their garage too criminals won’t get very far, will they?

Armed criminals only have an advantage if the law abiding are not armed.
When the law abiding are armed the criminal’s advantage disappears.


54 posted on 05/07/2013 10:47:46 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Schmucky should be more afraid of tar and feathers than plastic guns.

Effing traitor!


55 posted on 05/07/2013 10:47:48 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: cuban leaf
If the police see you carrying one on the street, they’ll know it’s a crime.

I would be embarrassed if I was seen carrying this thing on the street. And I am a CCW permit holder. It's really ugly and completely unreliable for personal protection. There is nothing practical about it....yet. Obviously this piece was a only and R&D prototype to prove the concept. The innovator certainly did make his point and in spectacular fashion. I'm proud of him.

56 posted on 05/07/2013 10:48:07 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m really happy that it churns democrat stomachs.


57 posted on 05/07/2013 10:48:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: rarestia
The First Amendment is pretty clear on this and even spells out: freedom of the press.

If Steve Israel can't understand that he's in the wrong country. Must have gotten off the plane in London and turned left or something.

58 posted on 05/07/2013 10:48:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SampleMan
Actually, I've got gardening stuff cluttering up the shop, so it would take a day of organizing before a 'factory' could be set up. And I could actually reach the lathe. ;)

But yeah, working steam engines and Stirlings engines weren't a problem, I figure a knock-off of the original Liberator would be pretty easy.

/johnny

59 posted on 05/07/2013 10:49:34 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind
Security checkpoints, background checks, and gun regulations will do little good if criminals can print plastic firearms at home

Hey, nitwit Representative, they're criminals; their intent is to break the law. The ONLY thing your new law would do is add an additional charge onto the stack of existing broken laws, should the cops be lucky enough to even find the perp.

60 posted on 05/07/2013 10:49:58 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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