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To: muawiyah

You just spent all that text reinforcing why your plan is a waste of time, money and end energy. And not a chance do I think we need want whatever dem votes.

Cut this, sever that. How about walking in the door with a clean slate and saying ‘here’s the deal AMERICA, You can keep voting for the party abandooning you or get on board with us. Since we already say what palin has for crowd drawing capacity when people THINK she will run, what happens if she does? With nothing to hold her back like the dead weight you recommend?

And the states? Goin or not. Companies? Join or not. You think the GOP can out a person againster as a populist? You think the big money will go to them facing an absolute PR nightmare trying to out conservative her? After all their calls for moderation?

You keep talking about votes winning. After November and all the well publicized sellouts you think the GOP is going to get votes? From who? She splits the DEM vote between the nutcases voting Stalin and the less insane who fear her more than the GOP liberal...and thus vote for the GOP lib rather than going further left than many of them are already comfortable being.

We just have to disagree Mu. Each of us thinks the other is way wrong.


515 posted on 05/05/2013 6:34:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
There is no 'clean slate' either ~ not in politics. The people don't just walk away from what they've been spending a lifetime doing, and folks who've never participated don't jump up smart, fresh and ready to run a large organization on a multi-state basis.

The Federalists believed that intelligent men of income and property would select good men to be officers of state.

Thomas Jefferson added things up and said "all you have to do is win elections" and figured out how to do that ~ he wiped the political slate clear of the Federalists! That never happened again. The Democratic Republicans or Republican Democrats, as he titled it, dominated American politics until a group called the Whigs figured out how to compete!

What you need to do is CUT the GOP-e out of the party. They've learned nothing and forgotten nothing! That's why they keep making the same fundamental errors over and over.

520 posted on 05/05/2013 6:39:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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