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Advice for the young women of Princeton: the daughters I never had [get married early]
Daily Princetonian ^ | March 29, 2013 | Susan Patton

Posted on 05/04/2013 10:06:29 PM PDT by grundle

Forget about having it all, or not having it all, leaning in or leaning out — here’s what you really need to know that nobody is telling you.

For years (decades, really) we have been bombarded with advice on professional advancement, breaking through that glass ceiling and achieving work-life balance. We can figure that out — we are Princeton women. If anyone can overcome professional obstacles, it will be our brilliant, resourceful, very well-educated selves.

A few weeks ago, I attended the Women and Leadership conference on campus that featured a conversation between President Shirley Tilghman and Wilson School professor Anne-Marie Slaughter, and I participated in the breakout session afterward that allowed current undergraduate women to speak informally with older and presumably wiser alumnae. I attended the event with my best friend since our freshman year in 1973. You girls glazed over at preliminary comments about our professional accomplishments and the importance of networking. Then the conversation shifted in tone and interest level when one of you asked how have Kendall and I sustained a friendship for 40 years. You asked if we were ever jealous of each other. You asked about the value of our friendship, about our husbands and children. Clearly, you don’t want any more career advice. At your core, you know that there are other things that you need that nobody is addressing. A lifelong friend is one of them. Finding the right man to marry is another.

When I was an undergraduate in the mid-seventies, the 200 pioneer women in my class would talk about navigating the virile plains of Princeton as a precursor to professional success. Never being one to shy away from expressing an unpopular opinion, I said that I wanted to get married and have children. It was seen as heresy.

For most of you, the cornerstone of your future and happiness will be inextricably linked to the man you marry, and you will never again have this concentration of men who are worthy of you.

Here’s what nobody is telling you: Find a husband on campus before you graduate. Yes, I went there.

I am the mother of two sons who are both Princetonians. My older son had the good judgment and great fortune to marry a classmate of his, but he could have married anyone. My younger son is a junior and the universe of women he can marry is limitless. Men regularly marry women who are younger, less intelligent, less educated. It’s amazing how forgiving men can be about a woman’s lack of erudition, if she is exceptionally pretty. Smart women can’t (shouldn’t) marry men who aren’t at least their intellectual equal. As Princeton women, we have almost priced ourselves out of the market. Simply put, there is a very limited population of men who are as smart or smarter than we are. And I say again — you will never again be surrounded by this concentration of men who are worthy of you.

Of course, once you graduate, you will meet men who are your intellectual equal — just not that many of them. And, you could choose to marry a man who has other things to recommend him besides a soaring intellect. But ultimately, it will frustrate you to be with a man who just isn’t as smart as you.

Here is another truth that you know, but nobody is talking about. As freshman women, you have four classes of men to choose from. Every year, you lose the men in the senior class, and you become older than the class of incoming freshman men. So, by the time you are a senior, you basically have only the men in your own class to choose from, and frankly, they now have four classes of women to choose from. Maybe you should have been a little nicer to these guys when you were freshmen?

If I had daughters, this is what I would be telling them.

Susan A. Patton ’77

President of the Class of 1977


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: marriage; princeton
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1 posted on 05/04/2013 10:06:29 PM PDT by grundle
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2 posted on 05/04/2013 10:10:40 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: grundle

Liberal heads will explode when exposed to this type of thinking.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 10:17:10 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Forget the BA and MS, get a Mrs?


4 posted on 05/04/2013 10:20:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grundle

Great advice for those intelligent enough to listen.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 10:21:19 PM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: grundle

As I have told both my son and daughter, “NEVER MARRY OUTSIDE YOUR READING GROUP”. I do not have a college degree but have had the self discipline to learn any thing I find of interest and or use.
I married a woman with a doctorate in education and it always amazes her how much I know about a multitude of subjects and topics.
I do have enough college credits in the hard sciences and engineering to get a bachelors degree but for some strange reason I kept refusing to take the politically correct classes to qualify for a graduation.
Just stubborn I guess.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 10:23:00 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: GraceG

You’ve done a real service for young feminists. Now they can have a clear mental picture of the person they want to become.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 10:23:29 PM PDT by TChad (Call them Oppressives, not Progressives)
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To: grundle
Here’s what nobody is telling you: Find a husband on campus before you graduate.

Here's some more:

You can not have it all. No one can. So make up your mind now about what's truly important to you.

You can marry a man or a boy. A man will take care of you. You will take care of the boy.

Men and women are different. You can either understand and enjoy the difference, or deny it and be miserable.

Raising a family is best done in young adulthood. Planning to do so in middle age is a selfish fantasy.

Of course, there's much more. But those set the tone.

8 posted on 05/04/2013 10:55:57 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: grundle

In the 1980’s, I was slaving away, sort of, as a bartender in a very hip, pricey Washington DC restaurant with other pretty, college-educated, young-but-aging, smarty-pants women who waited the wobbly, freesia’d, linen’d tables for tips while pursuing important artsy, intellectual interests by day. We were cool, smart, attractive and complete losers in the shark-infested, DC dating pool. Pretty faces, broken hearts, all of us. Over and over again.

One night, I noticed that the ordinary women in that hot restaurant kitchen that we all avoided, the women inventing new, seductive feasts every evening, were all happily married. Married to really nice men. Handsome, manly men. Could it be true? The way to a man’s heart...?

I started quizzing these patient women about how they dressed these delicious salads I’d been enjoying. What’s the sauce on the salmon? How did you prepare these steaks?

It’s true. Once I began cooking for the men in my life, anathema to most women of my stupid demographic, the long desired pronouncements of love and offers of marriage materialized. I enjoyed cooking and realized its primal value to myself and men. Yum!

Education occurs anywhere, everywhere. Screw college. Be nice and cook well.


9 posted on 05/04/2013 10:55:59 PM PDT by hillsborofox (If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities. Voltaire)
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To: grundle
I thought I heard an explosion somewhere.

/johnny

10 posted on 05/04/2013 11:03:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The only exception I will take to this is the notion women must marry men who are as smart or smarter than they are. not true. If you can find a man who adores you, but who calls you on your crap, who supports you 100%, but won’t lie to you about your shortcomings is worth their weight in gold. Just choose the man who is right for YOU, not one who looks good on paper. People are always surprised when they meet my wonderful husband, who is 20 years older and retired from his career of backbreaking physical work. Everyone ends up falling in love with him. I was lucky he has put up with me all these years. I am really crazy!


11 posted on 05/04/2013 11:07:36 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: grundle

these poor leftists. the foolishness literally oozes from every line of this arrogant letter. to talk about something as sacred and serious as marriage like it’s some sort of simple game to be played. to talk about a college education in the worthless ivy league as making one smarter or better than anyone else.

as far as marriage goes, these people have zero concept of what God’s marriage really entails. sadly, even when they marry, i don’t think they are really “married.” married as in having submerged one’s individuality to become one person. maybe that’s why divorce is so easy for them.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 11:07:50 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: DakotaGator
Raising a family is best done in young adulthood. Planning to do so in middle age is a selfish fantasy

AMEN! If I had to deal with a screaming baby at 2AM, I'd get a rock, and rock her to sleep.

At 22, I was ok with it.

On the other hand... In deep middle age, I'm a fine grandpa. I don't show my face around without the grandbabies bursting out in grins.

They don't get away with anything, but my language isn't quite so harsh these days.

/johnny

13 posted on 05/04/2013 11:08:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: hillsborofox
I don't allow wimmenz in my kitchen. I didn't spend all that time and money in culinary schools for some rookie to screw up my meal. ;)

It is a nice thought, though.

Not all men need the same thing.

/johnny

14 posted on 05/04/2013 11:12:31 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
On the other hand... In deep middle age, I'm a fine grandpa. I don't show my face around without the grandbabies bursting out in grins.

Exactly!

15 posted on 05/04/2013 11:14:13 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: hillsborofox
Education occurs anywhere, everywhere. Screw college. Be nice and cook well.

Education is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. You acquired wisdom!

16 posted on 05/04/2013 11:17:36 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: DakotaGator
You acquired wisdom!

The tuition for that is sometimes expensive.

/johnny

17 posted on 05/04/2013 11:19:37 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: grundle

Shared values correlates with successful marriages more than share intelligence.

That is why marrying someone who attends your church is a good option.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 11:19:46 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: hillsborofox

Education occurs anywhere, everywhere. Screw college. Be nice and cook well.

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Words of wisdom.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 11:29:52 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: JRandomFreeper

Indeed. And it always must be paid.


20 posted on 05/04/2013 11:30:54 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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