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Plastic bags, tape, broomsticks fix San Onofre leak
abc ^ | 4/30 | blacher

Posted on 04/30/2013 8:03:29 AM PDT by RummyChick

SAN DIEGO - An inside source gave Team 10 a picture snapped inside the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station (SONGS) showing plastic bags, masking tape and broom sticks used to stem a massive leaky pipe.

San Onofre owner Southern California Edison (SCE), confirms the picture was taken inside Unit Three, but did not say when. The anonymous source said the picture was taken in December 2012.

(Excerpt) Read more at 10news.com ...


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To: RummyChick
The source, who requested anonymity, is not alone in concerns over the safety San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station (SONGS).

This is very, very, very serious...but I'm not willing to give my name.

41 posted on 04/30/2013 8:39:12 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year oldÂ…school is now illegal...'cuz itÂ’s yuckey and dumb'.)
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To: dalereed

Why would you completely ignore a Safety Engineer INSIDE the plant with more than 2 decades of experience???


42 posted on 04/30/2013 8:39:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Link please, I'd like to know what experienced and unbiased nuclear engineers have to say although Jimmuh Carter claimed to be a nuk engineer, he is disqualified.

I wondered at the fact that they use sea water. Now, granted, the plant was built on the ocean so I assumed that they got water there but I didn't know it wasn't de-salinized.

I mean it's a nuk plant, I'm sure they have enough energy to desalinate the water they need and if there's a life threatening occurrence, they can just use the sea water like in Fukoshima which, according to experts, rendered those plants unusable forever. Then again, I think they had salt water in the reactor containment vessels and the ancient design didn't use heat exchangers so the water that drove the turbines is the same water the was in the reactor. Great job GE. I hope they take more care in their jet engines. They certainly didn't in the washer we bought a few years ago. POS.

43 posted on 04/30/2013 8:41:01 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: RummyChick
"I’m sure there are real things to be concerned about at the plant but this is not one of them" said I.

Wouldn't you want them to be concentrating on the major issues first?

44 posted on 04/30/2013 8:41:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Why would you be surprised at the unwillingness to divulge names.

Think Benghazi people might think twice???

What about those giving info to Beck????

You think there aren’t people who might endanger someone or at the very least create a hellish situation for a whistle blower???

Just ask those involved with Fast and Furious


45 posted on 04/30/2013 8:41:44 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: NonValueAdded

I think you can do both.

Channel 10 asked specific questions about that repair.

They didn’t get answers.

Maybe it was only for a day.

But I doubt it.


46 posted on 04/30/2013 8:43:04 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
showing plastic bags, masking tape and broom sticks used to stem a massive leaky pipe.

Sounds a lot like the procedures used by Kongress to fix the deficit/debt problems.

47 posted on 04/30/2013 8:43:46 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: RummyChick

Like I said, if you don’t live in So. Calif. Shut your god damn mouth!!!


48 posted on 04/30/2013 8:44:37 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: RummyChick

In the military, that’s known as an “field expedient.” Ah, that’s nuttin’. I once fixed the headlights on my daughter’s 1983 Eclipse using an old garden glove, a doggy toy, and a tennis ball. It was a thing of beauty. Wish I had taken a picture of it. You should’ve seen the look on the mechanic’s face when we took it in for state inspection.


49 posted on 04/30/2013 8:45:00 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: dalereed

The anti nukes force us to rely on old technology when new state of the art technology makes Fukyshima style disasters a thing of the past. Things like passive convection cooling don’t even require pumps or power to cool a reactor.


50 posted on 04/30/2013 8:46:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: dalereed

It’s my tax dollars that have to clean up after these disasters....that could be prevented.

I have no doubt that there are significant issues. I have no doubt that the owner would rather not fix them and just fire it up.

The question becomes corporate risk/reward.

It’s seen over and over again in Corporations.

Ford Pinto being one of the most famous.

If you have not been inside that plant you have NO BASIS to disagree with people who have the knowledge about it.


51 posted on 04/30/2013 8:48:29 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: shotgun

How are we going to defeat nuclear power if people like you keep making sense?


52 posted on 04/30/2013 8:49:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: RummyChick
Please note he has a PH.d but it doesn't say in what. The steam generator nightmare we've known about for years and their way of fixing it was to close off the leaking tubes at both ends, not exactly an ideal solution, especially since the steam generators are almost new.

Also note that they had to say this guy was pro-nuk.

It sounds like resonance is causing the hundreds or thousands of little pipes to resonate along their length which weakens them. There are plenty of easy ways to change the resonance frequency but it requires new steam generators. Just increasing the pipe's diameter and thickness would change the resonance frequency to possibly outside its normal range of operation.

Force Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to replace these steam generators. I wonder if they deviated from the original design to either save cost (usually the reason) or newer alloys were supposed to allow them to change the spec?

53 posted on 04/30/2013 8:50:56 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: RummyChick

“But in 2010, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission revealed that some San Onofre employees had told regulators they did not feel free to report safety concerns for fear of retaliation. What’s more, the NRC said that the plant had 10 times the industry median of complaints from workers

“That’s a huge problem for everyone in Southern California,” said attorney Maria Severson, who represents former San Onofre employee Paul Diaz. He said he was fired in 2010 after he came forward to his managers with safety concerns.”

http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/jun/28/san-onofre-safety-complaints-remain-highest-worker/


54 posted on 04/30/2013 8:52:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“” Ford Pinto being one of the most famous.”

There is/was nothing unsafe about a Ford Pinto other than a smart talking swede shoe asshole attorney and a stupid jury!!!

The only tax dollars being used a San Onofre are that of the court system by you nuke freaks and the time they are consuming of the regulators.

i’m the one have to pay for the cost you assholes are creating with my electric bill.

SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


55 posted on 04/30/2013 8:54:28 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

I think the steam tubes experiencing failure are on the reactor side of the plant so a leak or catastrophic failure would be bad.


56 posted on 04/30/2013 8:54:30 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

They are inside the containment dome and the radiation can’t get outside it.


57 posted on 04/30/2013 8:56:29 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

I am not anti nuke.

It is amazing that this claim gets thrown around anytime someone says that there are safety issues.

This plant has major issues.

Let me repeat, A SAFETY ENGINEER INSIDE SAYS THERE ARE MAJOR ISSUES.

Maybe he is wrong.

But the fact that he says there are major issues means that it should be investigated instead of burying your head in the sand and pretending they don’t exist.


58 posted on 04/30/2013 8:57:05 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Btw, there were issues with Ford Pinto.

There were internal emails that were disclosed INCLUDING a cost analysis of having to pay out for injuries and death due to the issue versus cost of fixing the known issues.


59 posted on 04/30/2013 8:59:53 AM PDT by RummyChick
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