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Marijuana Repeal Considered In Colorado
kcnc ^ | April 26, 2013 8:27 PM | Kristen Wyatt, et al.

Posted on 04/27/2013 12:30:29 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: familyop

Sure there is a war on drugs. Nixon and Reagan both said so. Nixon created the DEA. We now have 40,000 SWAT raids on people every year now and going up. Innocent people are shot in these raids. Men with full automatics break into homes and out of hand ‘hush puppies’. We do employ the military and paramilitary forces in this drug war. For example, two hundred marines were recently dispatched to patrol Guatamala for traffickers. This drug war has our 4th amendment rights surrounded and is incrementally encroached on.

Now that the “war on drug drug abuse” is taking on a military nature the drug warriors are now uncomfortable with the metaphor they themselves invoked.


61 posted on 04/28/2013 11:19:27 AM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: IDFbunny

I’m a prior service conservative, so I know that police, including SWAT team players, are civilians. They not doing anything like infantry combat—not even close. And there’s no fire support (artillery, air support, etc.). They’re only waking dope fiends from their sleep, when they get correct addresses, and arresting them, civilian style.


62 posted on 04/28/2013 12:05:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: IDFbunny
"We do employ the military and paramilitary forces in this drug war. For example, two hundred marines were recently dispatched to patrol Guatamala for traffickers. This drug war has our 4th amendment rights surrounded and is incrementally encroached on."

The 4th Amendment is not respected worldwide. And Guatemala tends to frequently see warfare on its soil, yes. Guatemala is not a U.S. state. Guatemala invited the Marines to vacation there, as Colombia has invited Army soldiers to its tropical accommodations on numerous occasions. Only one such occasion cut cocaine imports to the USA by one-third with very little time and funds spent.

But there are no military maneuvers or artillery strikes happening against dope fiends or their masters here. SWAT is not Army or Marine infantry, and drug busts (arrests) are done nothing like urban building clearing against real military/guerrilla enemies (extermination of enemy pests). And people do not really "battle" diseases. Feminazis do not really go into "battle" with the mythical "Patriarchy."

Granted, though, ragbag communist armies do sometimes get more involved in perpetrating drug slavery. One such organization even reportedly had a Russian submarine down south years ago (FARC, around Colombia). If that happens "more" here, then yes. Maybe we'll have a drug war.


63 posted on 04/28/2013 12:22:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red Steel
I wouldn't celebrate just yet...

A repeal amendment would require the support of two-thirds of the state legislature in order to qualify for the ballot.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/26/legal-marijuana-colorado-could-be-short-lived/

64 posted on 04/28/2013 12:39:03 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: IDFbunny
We now have 40,000 SWAT raids on people every year...

Do you have documentation for that?

65 posted on 04/28/2013 1:23:56 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: familyop

We need those boot camps plus we need to boot people (exile) who persist in selling small amounts of drugs. When word gets around you will be booted the others will shape up.

The older bomb brother was selling drugs...so his friends have said. Lots of people on various forms of welfare are selling drugs to supplement what they get from the taxpayers


66 posted on 04/29/2013 4:21:35 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: familyop
If there were a war on drugs, our military forces would have quickly won it with the blessings of the majority of the population

When the majority of the population saw what a military war on domestically produced drugs entailed, I'd hope they'd have more backbone and love of freedom left than to "bless" it. I know it's nothing any true American conservative could bless.

67 posted on 04/29/2013 7:55:14 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: dennisw
Is there a connection between being a nation with a flabby gay-friendly military and also legalizing marijuana? Five years ago I would look at Europe and say there is and we are headed in this direction.

Nowhere in Europe is marijuana legalized.

68 posted on 04/29/2013 7:56:10 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
in New York City cigarettes are taxed so much that two out of every three cigarettes sold are sold on the black market. Which funds islamic terrorists. The same thing will happen with legal marijuana. If the stupid state wants to tax it so much; it will be cheaper to buy it on the black market which funds the drug dealing murderous cartels.

Yes, a sufficiently stupid government could make legalization no better than the current policy - but since only NYC has done it with tobacco, and no U.S. jurisdiction has done it with the mind-altering drug alcohol, it seems the odds are it won't be done with marijuana.

69 posted on 04/29/2013 7:58:38 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Who is being arrested in Western Europe for having marijuana? No one. Maybe a few distributors who are selling harder drugs.

Germany for example http://www.420magazine.com/forums/germany/87439-germany-cannabis-law.html

Holland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands#Non-enforcement


70 posted on 04/29/2013 2:49:03 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: familyop

Fair enough. Where is the constitutional amendment authorizing fedgov to ban any drug? They needed one for alcohol.


71 posted on 04/29/2013 3:08:38 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: dennisw

We are definately headed there.


72 posted on 04/29/2013 3:11:36 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: dennisw
Nowhere in Europe is marijuana legalized.

Who is being arrested in Western Europe for having marijuana? No one. Maybe a few distributors who are selling harder drugs.

Germany for example http://www.420magazine.com/forums/germany/87439-germany-cannabis-law.html

Holland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands#Non-enforcement

Non-enforcement against persona-use amounts is not legalization.

73 posted on 04/30/2013 8:04:41 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (I'll stick to facts and logic, and not follow into the gutter those who make disagreements personal.)
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