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Beck, Obama, & Saudi Connections
www.williamrussell.net ^ | 4/27/2013 | William Russell

Posted on 04/27/2013 6:04:56 AM PDT by Bill Russell

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To: X-spurt

Like I told you, spurt, it’s obvious that our government isn’t communist , and it’s obvious that it’s not conspiring with terrorists.

You can call me a nut if it makes you feel better about the situation, I don’t much care, and it doesn’t change reality.

I’ve never supported Ron Paul or Rand Paul, and I do not care about Glenn Beck’s ratings nor do I watch his network.

So, it looks like you are wrong about everything you’ve said, and yet you wish me good luck.


101 posted on 04/27/2013 6:41:19 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Thanks for continuing to make my point.

As to our having a communist government, its undoubtedly loaded with self serving slackers and power hungry burrocrats led by an un-American muslim socialist - all grifters out for what they can scam, but communist may be an over-statement which detracts from claimer’s credibility.

So why jump in the middle of a discussion on GB with this off the wall stuff??


102 posted on 04/27/2013 9:09:14 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: X-spurt

I’m not making your point, I’m making the point of reality.

It is a communist take over of this country. It’s happening all around us. Whether or not you choose to recognize that is up to you, but like I said you can call me a nut if that’s easier for you. I understand why you would do that.

But that isn’t going to change reality, it will only assist in your denial of it for a while longer.


103 posted on 04/27/2013 9:31:51 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Mamzelle

Thanks, Mamzelle. I am sure there are grammar Nazis who will weigh in on your side. That said, I chose to use “distrustful” as it implies someone disengages from trust with deliberate lies intended to mislead. “Untrustworthy” implies someone can be simply unreliable — cannot be trusted to tie their own shoes, or show up on time, or fulfill their promises... but perhaps you distrust my linguistic judgement?.... It won’t be the first time I have been caught gaffing while writing.


104 posted on 04/28/2013 3:33:06 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: muawiyah

Muawiyah,

Not a bad write up, but you I disagree with a couple of your statements.

1. The Saudi Arabian National Guard (SANG), like the Army (Ministry of Defense) is manned by tribal members. But both organizations answer to the king. They are headed by members of the royal family who are also loyal to the king. They are similar in strength and as ballast to each other, to ensure that no Prince leading an armed organization would choose to seize power ahead of his time. When I was working with the SANG, the guy in charge of it was Crown Prince (now King) Abdullah, who was King Fahad’s brother.

2. On a more minor point, all sources I have ever heard on the size of the royal family place it at 6,000 (+/-), vice the 50,000 (+/-). Where does the 50,000 estimate come from?

V/R

Bill

Thanks for writing.


105 posted on 04/28/2013 3:47:26 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: muawiyah

Muawiyah,

Not a bad write up, but you I disagree with a couple of your statements.

1. The Saudi Arabian National Guard (SANG), like the Army (Ministry of Defense) is manned by tribal members. But both organizations answer to the king. They are headed by members of the royal family who are also loyal to the king. They are similar in strength and as ballast to each other, to ensure that no Prince leading an armed organization would choose to seize power ahead of his time. When I was working with the SANG, the guy in charge of it was Crown Prince (now King) Abdullah, who was King Fahad’s brother.

2. On a more minor point, all sources I have ever heard on the size of the royal family place it at 6,000 (+/-), vice the 50,000 (+/-). Where does the 50,000 estimate come from?

V/R

Bill

Thanks for writing.


106 posted on 04/28/2013 3:53:46 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: larryjohnson

Hi Larry,

I don’t know Mark Caudell and have not read his book.

I would have many of the same concerns which your question implies. The problem with the basics of Islam is the demand to impose it and its political-legal system of Sharia on others......


107 posted on 04/28/2013 4:00:04 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: butterdezillion

Hi Butterdezillion,

Interesting thought. If the Hamza connection proves out, then we have a whole new dynamic that spans into Treason (aiding comforting the enemy in time of war)on the part of the President and First Lady. — Which comes back to my theory, if the Hamza Bin Laden connection were the case, we would have the majority of the intel community beating down the doors of Congress and going public with the documentation demanding impeachment. — When we see that happen, we will know you are right.

V/R

Bill


108 posted on 04/28/2013 4:19:07 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: Bill Russell
50,000 ~ includes people who were born outside of approved marriages or those that occur with girls from the tribes where there is no expectation of royal status ~ plus, they've been using that 6,000 number for a good 5 decades and you just know that's not so.

As you undoubtedly recall, when they had about 1,500,000 people they were reporting 7,000,000 ~ today the estimate they seem to accept is about 24,000,000 ~

It's not unbelievable that they have a whopping huge population these days ~ there's so little to do there otherwise.

Now, why would anyone continue to accept the 6,000 number.

109 posted on 04/28/2013 5:36:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bill Russell; Hardraade

I think we are in a worse situation than you realize. We will NOT necessarily have the people within the system beating down the doors of Congress to do what is right. I say that because I have done a lot of research on Obama’s eligibility and what I have found and can document is that the system itself aided and abetted the crimes of Obama by doing their own crimes as well.

Larry Sellin overheard one of the R Presidential primary candidates say that nobody would touch the eligibility issue because they know it goes WAY deeper than anybody is willing to delve. IOW, they know there is deep, deep treason and they want to pretend that it doesn’t exist, for fear of what would happen if the truth came out.

The fact is that people within the FBI (and perhaps CIA) HAVE gone to ten members of Congress as well as to Glenn Beck with information about this Saudi guy (and Hardraade pointed out that DHS is claiming Beck’s info is that the guy is Hamza, although Beck hasn’t publicly stated that yet). Beck says these people have told him they could be sentenced to 20 years in prison for doing so.

So far the Congress members have nicely asked Napolitano to meet with them and discuss this - just like they have nicely asked Holder and others to provide documents related to Fast and Furious, and have nicely asked the State Dept to provide documents related to Benghazi. All they have ever gotten from any of those entities is the middle finger salute, and it appears that’s all they’re going to get this time as well.

Will Congress be willing to open up this can of worms, or will they leave out to dry those people who risked 20 years in prison, just like Obama left our guys in Benghazi out to dry? Given what I’ve seen on the eligibility issue, I have no confidence that Congress would do the right thing even if they knew there was big-time treason - because the largeness of the treason was the very reason to NOT dig into the eligibility issue.

What caused me to first sound the alarms on Obama’s eligibility and to go public with my research was the realization that we are really and truly lawless. The system itself has betrayed us in every way imagineable, and until we knock some sense into those systems, we are defenseless. ESPECIALLY if the people sworn to protect us know that our enemies are routing us. They are like the hireling who abandons the sheep when the wolf comes.

We are in much, much more serious times than anybody except those who have seriously dug into the eligibility issue realize. The number of crimes committed BY THE GOVERNMENT in allowing the 2008 coup to occur would be unbelievable to most people and is only believed by those of us who have researched it because we have witnessed it first-hand and can prove that it happened. What we can’t find is anybody within the system who says that it even matters if it did happen.

And the Fast and Furious and Benghazi issues only confirm that Congress will go limp on confronting treason by this regime, even when they know American lives have been lost because of it.

These are very, very serious times, and I don’t know how to help the general public realize exactly how serious this all is.


110 posted on 04/28/2013 5:40:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: muawiyah

Fair enough, thanks for the sourcing/reasoning on the numbers....you are correct the 6,000 number has been around for a long time ... adding family members who have no royal status to the mix certainly increases the numbers, along with natural population increases.... I don’t see it as a major issue to this particular discussion. But I was thrown a bit by the big jump in the number......Thanks again.

V/R

Bill


111 posted on 04/28/2013 5:54:33 AM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: Bill Russell

I will give one example, also, to help you understand what we’re dealing with: the FBI’s response to Obama’s ineligibility. I went to the local FBI to report the signs of forgery on Obama’s BC. The guy told me THREE SEPARATE TIMES that they don’t investigate document fraud. So I went online to report it and in conclusion it told me that it would send it to the FBI for them to investigate.

When I warned the KS Democratic Party chair, Joan Wagnon, on my blog that I have in my hand the proof that she was informed about HI state registrar Alvin Onaka indirectly confirming that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid, somebody tried to post a comment saying that they had helped to create the forgery and I was wasting my time because Obama has immunity and so do they. The poster said that the FBI knows they did the forgery and will cover the forger’s behinds.

I tried to find out who posted that. They had used gates to hide where they posted from, and when my hacker helper got close to finding out the truth he hit a tripwire that had been set up to fry the computer of the person who ventured too close. My guy ended up dropping the pursuit because he was afraid for his life, and this is a guy who had experience delving into some very serious stuff at an international level. His computer was fried so badly that the last I knew he was not able to get it to work again.

That’s a bit excessive for somebody who was “just joking” - especially since the “jokers” have publicly admitted to forging a Kenyan BC and giving it to Orly Taitz in order to get it submitted in a legal case.

But I already knew what this poster said was true, because I had observed the actions of the FBI and seen their lies to pretend that they had no responsibility. When I submitted an affidavit to the Lincoln Police Department detailing and proving the crimes of perjury, subornation of perjury, and election fraud in the 2012 election, the cop told me the FBI had lied to me, because they do investigate document fraud. I said I already knew that because the online report was being sent to the FBI to investigate.

Incidentally, the cop I spoke to was told that he not only could not investigate the crimes that I reported and documented, but he could not forward it to the state AG either. He was supposed to just let the case die out without me even knowing that the system itself was willing to ignore everything I had just documented for them. When I reported it to my state AG (who had lied to me in saying that citizens couldn’t report to them...) they sent it to the SOS as if the SOS is a law enforcement body.

That’s the kind of response I have gotten from EVERYBODY within the system. The ONLY just people I have found within the system are Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse - because they have seen and analyzed the FACTS just like I have. Everybody else poo-poohed the whole thing and wouldn’t even LOOK at the facts.


112 posted on 04/28/2013 5:55:05 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: chris37

Your right ... they do provide a useful service in keeping the issues in front of at least a small percentage of the population.

OTOH, they make a TONof money themsleves while they don’t actually solve ANYthing, and Rush and Levin in particular dissappointments me EVERY time that someone asks either one for some specific advice.


113 posted on 04/28/2013 8:48:22 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: CanuckYank

Of all the hosts, Rush disappoints me the most and the most often. He rarely discusses anything of significance these days sadly.

But, that being said, I do still love him very much.

He is the man who shaped my conservatism, and he did so by being the first one to get to me politically when I was 21 and explained things in such a way that I had no choice but to agree.

He, being the first to reach me on a political level, was the one who planted the seeds of conservatism, and they grew. There was no longer room for any other seed to be planted.

This is partly the reason I view their roles as sources of conservative philosophy as so important. Whomever plants seeds in any fertile mind first shall be the permanent gardener of that mind.

This is why liberals are trying to get to kids as early as they can to plant the seeds of their poisonous philosophy, and they are certainly succeeding in that effort.


114 posted on 04/28/2013 9:23:58 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Bill Russell

Well, I went back and read that sentence several times. I was a pro at this at one time, and uncertainty of meaning always catches my attention faster than spelling. It isn’t a grammar problem, but a usage one. The sentence is grammatical as is.


115 posted on 04/28/2013 11:08:45 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Bill Russell
We had a neighbor who never bothered marrying the baby-mama he brought up North with him from the coalfields in Kentucky. The older children, particularly the boys, were ANGRY ~ but they'd jump out to defend anyone in their family first.

I suspect the non-royal offspring of royals in Saudi really have to be considered to be loyal FIRST to their family members ~ and then maybe to the clan or tribe ~ but always the family first.

BTW, regarding the dichotomy between Saudi NG And Saudi Army, of course the royals think of it in terms of princes, but the Tribal leadership think of it a bit differently ~ and that makes a whopping big difference. All federated tribal societies have that problem ~ even if the leader of the tribal consolidated forces was a close relative of the top dog over the royal forces.

We need look back no further than the dynastic disputes between English claimants and French claimants over kingship over what had been proprietorships held by Anjou over both places! There are outlyers in the mix who were sufficiently able to command or attract allegiance from enough men to end up creating England, France, Burgundy and a fair number of mini-states (note, Brittany was an independent 'super power' just a few centuries before ~ they had command over the Bay of Biscay and the English channel ~ and could pretty well enforce whatever revenue edicts they wished ~ but once the dynastic disputes between England and France were settled, Brittany found itself being eaten alive by French nobles.)

116 posted on 04/28/2013 1:18:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mamzelle

Thanks for raising the point in the first place! It is always good to have people call you on issues of style, usage, & content. I have certainly embarrassed myself enough over the years by putting out poorly written & proof read documents where the gaffes killed the message and the grade. The mathematical equation for those disasters was RD=FC (Rough Draft = Final Copy).
V/R
Bill


117 posted on 04/28/2013 3:00:40 PM PDT by Bill Russell
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To: Bill Russell

It is very difficult to edit and proofread your own writing. For fun, sometime search up how often “flair” and “flare” are misused...in newspaper headlines. Copy editors can’t even manage headlines any more. It is sad how just the headlines are becoming less and less loyal to the English language. And like Dr. Ben Carson said, they’re coming for our language the way they’re coming for our guns.


118 posted on 04/28/2013 3:05:50 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: chris37

Tinfoil stocks are looking better n better.


119 posted on 04/29/2013 8:13:00 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: Bill Russell

Does anyone know which mosque(s) Al Harbi attended in Boston?


120 posted on 05/30/2013 10:27:30 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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