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Police: Dzhokhar was unarmed when captured ( Police wanted him alive for info- DOJ wanted silent)
Hot Air ^ | 8:41 am on April 25, 2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/26/2013 10:55:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

After more than 18 hours of gunfights and door-to-door searches, the Boston Police Department and its partners in the greater metropolitan area were prepared for anything when they finally caught up with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.  According to the Washington Post and the Associated Press, however, the same couldn’t be said for Tsarnaev.  Despite initial reports of a firefight and possibly a suicide attempt, police now acknowledge that the younger terrorist was unarmed when they finally discovered him hiding in a boat in Watertown:

Although police feared he was heavily armed, the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing had no firearms when he came under a barrage of police gunfire that struck the boat where he was hiding, according to multiple federal law enforcement officials.

Authorities said they were desperate to capture Dzhokhar Tsarnaev so he could be questioned. The FBI, however, declined to discuss what prompted the gunfire.

Other law enforcement officials said the shooting may have been prompted by the chaos of the moment and some action that led the officers to believe Tsarnaev had fired a weapon or was about to detonate explosives.

What may have caused the gunfire from the police? Well, it’s really not difficult to figure that out:

“They probably didn’t know whether he had a gun,” said one law enforcement official, who like others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation. “Hours earlier, he and his brother had killed a police officer, shot another officer and thrown explosives out of their cars as the police were chasing them. They couldn’t assume that he did not have a gun and more explosives.”

I’m reminded of a scene from Unforgiven, where Clint Eastwood shoots the saloon owner after seeing Morgan Freeman’s body on display outside of it. When Gene Hackman says, “You just shot an unarmed man!”, Eastwood replies, “He should’ve armed himself if he was going to decorate his saloon with my friend.” More to the point, though, one of their colleagues was already not going to see his family ever again, and more than a dozen or so other colleagues were wounded because of Tsarnaev, and they didn’t want to take a risk that they’d be next.  If they were a little tense and quick on the trigger, it’s an issue that they will need to take up later, but still understandable.

At any rate, Tsarnaev survived and is expected to recover.  He’s not talking much any more, though, after having been given his Miranda warning:

The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings acknowledged to the FBI his role in the attacks but did so before he was advised of his constitutional right to keep quiet and seek a lawyer, U.S. officials said Wednesday.

Once Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was read his rights on Monday, he immediately stopped talking, according to four officials of both political parties who were briefed on the interrogation but insisted on anonymity because the briefing was private.

After roughly 16 hours of questioning, investigators were surprised when a magistrate judge and a representative from the U.S. Attorney’s office entered the hospital room and read Tsarnaev his rights, the four officials and one law enforcement official said. Investigators had planned to keep questioning him.

If they had planned to keep questioning him, why bring in the judge and file the charges? They could have waited another day or so to arraign Tsarnaev, especially since this took place over a weekend.  I’m not sure any judge — particularly at the federal level — would skip advising a defendant of his rights in a case involving a criminal charge.

Still, it doesn’t make much difference in the criminal case anyway.  Dzhokhar admitted his involvement in the bombing case to their kidnap victim, murdered a police officer, and engaged in a shootout that resulted in the death of his co-conspirator, which makes him eligible for a murder charge on that point, too.  He’s not going anywhere for a very long time whether he talks or not.  The damage comes in the loss of intelligence on whether larger connections in the case exist, but there is some question as to whether Dzhokhar would have known of them even if they exist.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedarico; dncrico; dojcoverup; dojrico; jihad; tsarnaev
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1 posted on 04/26/2013 10:55:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That “take him alive for the info” thing sure didn’t work out.


2 posted on 04/26/2013 10:56:33 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Too bad they didn’t shoot the bas-ard anyway.


3 posted on 04/26/2013 10:56:36 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IsraelBeach; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; blam; ...
The FBI was getting good info from him when the sudden and unexp[ected Judge and public Defender showed up and put a stop to that.

Maybe more will come out on that.

4 posted on 04/26/2013 10:57:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The judge and the public defender “showed up” because they were required by law to do so once the Justice Department filed its criminal complaint.


5 posted on 04/26/2013 10:59:08 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When I heard they had found joker, I immediately thought they were going to Dorner him. I was extremely surprised that he was taken alive. From this article, it sounds like that’s what Leo had planned, too. He’s lucky to be alive.


6 posted on 04/26/2013 10:59:54 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy

So if the guy might have explosives,...you would still try to sneak up real close?


7 posted on 04/26/2013 11:03:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It took how many federal agents, throwing down 200+ rounds at an unarmed 19 year old kid, to subdue him?

Can you imagine these “warriors” encountering 50 well armed patriots, some combat veterans?

They better bring some MRAPs. Oh, hey.

8 posted on 04/26/2013 11:05:38 AM PDT by ryan71 (The republican party is dead to me. Dead. Don't bother trying to revive it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
thrown explosives out of their cars

Do we know what kind of explosives were thrown? Also heard the reports of them supposedly wanted to go to Times Square to blow up their remaining explosives. Have the Feds found these "remaining explosives"? Were they pressure cooker devices as well?
9 posted on 04/26/2013 11:08:37 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The federal government and the State of Massachussetts should be indicted as co-conspirators since they financed the schooling, travel, feeding, housing, telecommunications, and healthcare of these two terrorist bombers.

People are indicted every week for sending $2,000 to their family members in Islamic countries if they are on terrorism watch lists.

How is this any different?

10 posted on 04/26/2013 11:09:08 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

fedgov law enforcement knows quite well that dead men tell no tales. Their SOP for years has been to kill everyone they are after. That way there are no facts to get in the way of the script.


11 posted on 04/26/2013 11:13:13 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: ryan71

>It took how many federal agents, throwing down 200+ rounds at an unarmed 19 year old kid, to subdue him?<

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This unarmed 19-year old kid had the entire city in lockdown for awhile.

Imagine what would happen if there were a couple of terrorist cells working as a team. All of MA would probably be isolated from the rest of the US.


12 posted on 04/26/2013 11:15:34 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not indicate whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: blackdog
Excellent point. I think at the very least that Janet Napolitano is overdue for criminal charges accompanied with resignation in complete disgrace.
13 posted on 04/26/2013 11:16:05 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If they were a little tense and quick on the trigger, it’s an issue that they will need to take up later, but still understandable.

Clearly a boot-licker.

14 posted on 04/26/2013 11:16:59 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Mr. Lucky

I thought there was a time period before they were required to show up....?


15 posted on 04/26/2013 11:20:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Missouri gal

The sad thing is that Bush let the criminals in the Clinton administration get away with all of their misdeeds after he took power. The Bushes are part of the establishment club and didn’t want to be viewed as “unsporting” by going after Janet Reno, Clinton, Gore or those who stole stuff from the White House. That’s why Dems love RINOs. It still galls me every time I see Bush Sr. yucking it up with Clinton. It describes the Washington establishment in a single photo.


16 posted on 04/26/2013 11:21:20 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: ryan71
The 200 rounds were at the first action which was local law enforcement initially.

And there they were throwing explosives at the police/

17 posted on 04/26/2013 11:23:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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On this thread....

CNN: Tsarnaev’s mother added to TIDE list, too
Hot Air ^ | 10:41 am on April 26, 2013 | Ed Morrissey

....the Video interview says he was armed.

18 posted on 04/26/2013 11:29:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: blackdog

Some of the bombing victims will indeed file lawsuits against the Feds and the state of MA over these very reasons


19 posted on 04/26/2013 11:31:57 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

How did he blow out his vocal cords without a gun? Too many questions, and frankly, the .gov is full of asshats who would lie and say anything to cover their rears.


20 posted on 04/26/2013 11:33:37 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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