[allmendream]

Miranda WARNING.

The rights were always there, the decision was that the police had to WARN you that you had those rights before they started asking you questions.

The decision conveyed no rights. It compelled the police to WARN you that you had the right to not talk to them - which is ALWAYS a good idea.

[PowderMonkey]

"The rights were always there, the decision was that the police had to WARN you that you had those rights before they started asking you questions."

Up to the point where they say "you are under arrest," they can ask you anything they want, and your answers can indeed be used against you in court. Miranda begins with the specific wording "You are under arrest." No arrest? No need to Mirandize. So this judge supposedly shows up in the perp's hospital room to Mirandize him? Who arrested him? Obviously not the FBI.

[bgill]

The rights were always there, the decision was that the police had to WARN you

There it is. Everyone knows that. He knew he had the right to keep his mouth shut but was cooperating anyway. The question I want answered is what did the judge and entourage tell him to make him shut up. Them waltzing in there wasn't because the judge had a wild hair to do so. They were there upon someone's orders. I suspect the Miranda was an excuse to relay a message to get hussein's muzzy brother to keep quiet. I also want to know when he was officially arrested. There isn't a hint of indiscretion of him not being read his rights if he wasn't under arrest. Let him tell it all and then arrest and read him his rights.

[sonofagun]

"The rights were always there, the decision was that the police had to WARN you that you had those rights before they started asking you questions. The decision conveyed no rights. It compelled the police to WARN you that you had the right to not talk to them - which is ALWAYS a good idea."

THIS bears repeating.

Miranda conveys NO rights. Miranda simply makes one aware of rights one already has as a US citizen!